Reply With QuoteYes.Originally Posted by spudboy
tribalism: definition of tribalism in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)
ForumSage
SubscriberE.D.,
Actually we started the whole "land rovers are crap" thing!
What it does, is it takes those people who need to see "4X4" written on their vehicle out of the area and away from our vehicles!!. If you need that kind of reassurrance then we dont need you!
Some of my friends were puzzled that I choose to own and drive one (well some) of these vehicles instead of a "car" like 4wd.
So what are the advantages?
Well, one of the obvious ones is size... it is very spacious! Here are some more good points about them:
Durability
Land Rovers have been in production since 1948, and it is reckoned that 75% of all those ever built are still in use. In fact, Land Rover drivers sometimes refer to other makes of "4x4" as "disposables''!
Greenness
It's said that a motor vehicle uses more energy to build it than it will use to propel it in its lifetime. If this is true a vehicle that lasts many times longer than other vehicles uses less energy overall than the multiple replacements that you would otherwise have to get. Also, a diesel Land-Rover is not a "gas-guzzler'', despite the reputation that some people have tried to give them.
Versatility
With most types of vehicles, if it doesn't do a particular thing that you want it to do, that's tough. With a Land Rover, you simply get some bits of metal, cut, bend and join them to shape, to adapt it to do what you want.
Towing capacity
The Land Rover is an excellent tug, both for trailers and for moving other vehicles. I've heard of an 80" Series I Land Rover towing an 18-ton steam traction engine; although I don't know what the maximum towing load capability for a modern, 2.25 litre, Land Rover is.
Ruggedness
The interior and exterior of most Land Rovers is ready to be abused! Be it climbing in and out covered in mud or rubbish, or throwing tools, boots, wood camping gear etcetc into the back Landies can take it!
Off-road ability
As well as having a wide range of gear ratios, the Land Rover has excellent suspension and good ground clearance, allowing it to cover much rougher terrain than most non-tracked vehicles of its size.
Longevity
Yes its true "Land Rovers seem to always need repairs".... but a lot of these are because theyve already outlived their competition and are mileages like 300,000+.
Comraderie
What other make of 4x4 owners wave to each other automatically?
What other current brand will arrange a gathering based on ownership alone
and have everyone get on well?
--- It comes down to this in my opinion....
Land Rovers are my choice
I can bag them because they are my choice, --not your choice? Off you go then!!
I can bolt just about anything onto or in my car, hows the commodore or the prado for that then??
I still have roof gutters on my current model defender, so I can still fit roof racks etc as I wish... (none of these special fittings to attach standard stuff to it)
I didn't see the army using prados or pajeros as their frontline vehicle.... I wonder why that was!!?
The Royal Family use Land Rovers, good enough for the Queen, good enough for me! (sound familiar people?)
I can wash my land rover out with a hose and still be comfortable... hows the landcrusier with that?
I have petrol and diesel options and land rovers are still affordable...hows your nissan patrol with that?
anyway....
How many owners really love their cars well enough to defend them like we do?
***My advice? Ignore them, they are ignorant and we are keeping them that way or then everyone would want one and the price would drive up!!
And when you are still driving the "white knight" around and they are car shopping for something else, smile to yourself
(REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110
ForumSage
Yes.
tribalism: definition of tribalism in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)
Major Part of the Heart and Soul of AULRO
SubscriberOn my hunting forum my name is "landyvlad".
They all know I'm a LR tragic, and I copit from them RELENTLESSLY.
Yep sometimes it annoys the crapp oittame but I rarely let them see it.
I KNOW what they are missing.... if they want toyosan poocruiser that's their business not mine.
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Wizard
Subscriber[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhI-K0aAk8]DODGE RAM CUMMINS VS LANDROVER DEFFENDER 90 - YouTube[/ame]
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SubscriberIt's OK that has been posted plenty of places and they are full of excuses about how it was rigged, or the conditions were chosen to suit the landy, or.....
They can't stand the thought a Landy might be good....
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Wizard
Subscriberyeah it hought it may have done the rounds a few times, i saw it not all that long ago LOL
ChatterBox
SupporterHello from Brisbane,
Inclined to agree with most of what people write to defend the marque, but remain a bit dubious about this particular longevity statistic - see it all the time, and it is effectively a direct steal from a longstanding marketing claim by US Ford that around 80% of all the F series trucks ever built were still on the road (in the 70s anyway). The impression to be given here is there are an awful lot of old Land Rovers out there on the roads still - but you don't tend to see that many. Or old F Series for that matter.........
It probably says a bit about the rise, fall and rise of Land Rovers in the global market under the various owners.
If I am correct here, the 1 millionth Land Rover was a metallic green Series 3 SWB wagon that did the rounds for publicity purposes. So it took from 1948 to around 1978 or later to produce the first million vehicles - mostly Series. I don't know how long it took to make the next million, but would guess that it was a bit shorter than that. However, the Solihull plant has already produced over a million Range Rovers and also a million Discoveries.
So, the magic 75% figure is more than likely made up of a fleet of late model Range Rovers, Discoveries, Freelanders and Defenders and not too many of the million or so Series trucks that rolled off the lines in Warwickshire, Sydney, Port Elizabeth, Iran, Spain and wherever else.
Regretfully, many of the leafers that came off the lines have either gone to the crusher, rejoined the elements of the earth or look a bit like these:
Cheers,
Master
In Psychology this tendency is referred to as "out-group discrimination" and it is as you noted an innate and very pervasive human attribute that many people fail to recognise in themselves or others. Fascinating (and disturbing) stuff.
YarnMaster
SupporterIt must be who you lot hang about with as I have never experienced this "hatred" of which you speak.
I get positive comments like "My Dad/ Grandfather / Uncle had one of those and it would go anywhere"
"What a great little Landy, I learnt to drive in one of those"
Etc Etc.
CTRL + V!
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I've discovered the closer to Brisbane, the deeper the bull****. Bob
I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food
A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
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