Thread: Small diesel cars - Amazing fuel economy

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Reinforcing that these are no longer targeted at rural buyers. Someone living on a property out of town does not want to have to store two types of fuel.

John

Unfortunately John, most companies are not interested in what the Rural community/property owners think, as with anything that is happening in the bush at the moment.

Baz.

Well, not all modern diesels are economical. I drive a current model Captiva (no choice - a work car) and while not a small car like some here are talking about, it is by no means a big car. It only carts my fat arse and a laptop around in the first 15,000KM it has averaged 9.1 L/100KM. Not what I'd consider economical at all. I drive it just the same as I drove the old Dunny Door - which averaged 9.5 over it's life (200,000KM in 4 years).

The L322 averages 11.2 and is damn near twice the weight and that's 12 years old.

Glad I have a fuel card for it - I would be very disapointed if I had lashed out my hard earnt and then found this. They went to the diesel engine as the petrol version was horrendeous - around 14's. They didn't really do very well...

Originally Posted by Redback

Unfortunately John, most companies are not interested in what the Rural community/property owners think, as with anything that is happening in the bush at the moment.

Baz.

im guessing rural buying would make up less than 5% of the market

Originally Posted by JDNSW

And is also a lot heavier.

My son now has a Hyundai I30 - gives around 5l/100km, better than twice the economy of the Commodore that it replaced. But it weighs significantly more than the Commodore, and hence costs more to register. It also has airbags, better aircon, much better performance, better ride, quieter, better brakes, than the Commodore.

John

Old thread - Old post... But it came up in the feed today..

John - how do you figure this?

I30 is 1310-1413kg for a Diesel
VN Commodore is 1310-1403kg (V6 base to SS V8)
VE Commodore is 1690-1825kg

Rego in NSW is:
1155 to 1504kg - $284
1505 to 2504kg - $433

The I30 and earlier Commodore are same bracket, the Later Commodore is next level..

How can the I30 be costing more / weigh more

Originally Posted by Tombie

Old thread - Old post... But it came up in the feed today..

John - how do you figure this?

I30 is 1310-1413kg for a Diesel
VN Commodore is 1310-1403kg (V6 base to SS V8)
VE Commodore is 1690-1825kg

Rego in NSW is:
1155 to 1504kg - $284
1505 to 2504kg - $433

The I30 and earlier Commodore are same bracket, the Later Commodore is next level..

How can the I30 be costing more / weigh more

I'm just going on his complaints about it costing more to register. Not being at all familiar with Commodore models, I don't know which one it was - it was a station wagon, about twenty years old.

John

Originally Posted by bacicat

The L322 averages 11.2 and is damn near twice the weight and that's 12 years old.

............as the petrol version was horrendous - around 14's.

To put that into a positive perspective.

My 2013 4 door Grand Vitara Sport - auto, 2.4 petrol & 4x4 by the log book consistently uses between 9.2 and 13.6 litres per hundred kms with most consumption figures slotting in to the 11 to 12 L per 100 kms.

Originally Posted by Grumbles

To put that into a positive perspective.

My 2013 4 door Grand Vitara Sport - auto, 2.4 petrol & 4x4 by the log book consistently uses between 9.2 and 13.6 litres per hundred kms with most consumption figures slotting in to the 11 to 12 L per 100 kms.

And to put that in perspective, my 1986 110 diesel, with much greater payload does about the same or a little better (usually 10.5-11), even at 560,000km. Admittedly it is manual, but it would be higher drag, as well as a lot heavier.

John