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    If they made cars people wanted, there would have been no issue, I just bought an XR6 Falcon to have as a daily driver, so my comment is not biased, not many people want a big Aussie 6 or 8.

    The cars that private consumers are buying are all made offshore now anyway, the unions and companies should stop whingeing, it's their **** up, the product has been wrong for 20 years.

    Cheers
    Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I've just spent four days of the last five driving around in a Territory towing a tandem full of stuff doing the "AULRO Courier" thing. I traveled 3000km. Petrol consumption averaged (acording to the trip computer) 14.3l/100km. Really enjoyed the drive. It is a great vehicle. Every Aussie family should have one. And a Commodore.
    The rest are toys or rubbish or both.
    Ive got a Turbo Territory Mick.Only driven it twice,no more than 200km.Probably a good thing as my D2 is strong enough,that thing is a licence destroyer.LOVERLY VEHICLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richard4u2 View Post
    every Australian who bought a car that was made overseas are the problem
    And where was your land rover made?

    Just saying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR View Post
    If they made cars people wanted, there would have been no issue, I just bought an XR6 Falcon to have as a daily driver, so my comment is not biased, not many people want a big Aussie 6 or 8.

    The cars that private consumers are buying are all made offshore now anyway, the unions and companies should stop whingeing, it's their **** up, the product has been wrong for 20 years.

    Cheers
    Will
    We STRONGLY encouraged and HELPED our boy buy a BA XR6,his first car.We are 160km from the city where he attends university.GREAT open road car,very economical and cheap on parts.Strong vehicle if a collision with a roo or buz box occurs.
    He has paid off what we put in already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR View Post
    If they made cars people wanted, there would have been no issue, I just bought an XR6 Falcon to have as a daily driver, so my comment is not biased, not many people want a big Aussie 6 or 8.

    The cars that private consumers are buying are all made offshore now anyway, the unions and companies should stop whingeing, it's their **** up, the product has been wrong for 20 years.

    Cheers
    Will
    Will, its still a furphy, who made the decision to continue to make the Falcon and not a Fiesta, you can bet that decision was made in Dearborn Michigan and not Geelong Victoria.

    Max Yasuda CEO of Toyota, today said that to have economies of scale an automotive plant needs to make hundreds of thousands of cars a year and Australian plants come no where near that figure, add to that Toyota lost at least $2,500 on every Camry it exported to the Middle East. With less than 100K cars a year and input costs in Au at least twice as expensive as plants in Europe none of the Au manufacturers could survive. (BTW the Australian taxpayer subsidised every Toyota worker at $75,000 per year and Holden workers at $50K.)

    The question remains, that if we want to compete with Thai or Chinese workers for wages and conditions then we can have car, washing machine or food processing plants.

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    Im pretty good at rubbing my crystal balls!!!!!!
    When the dust settles I bet we still get a Dunnydoor and Falcoon,made in China or the Phillipines etc.Lets just see.
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    The Territory I was driving was John's. He has friends from America who visit. ( He visits them as well.) When these Americans visit, he takes them around the place in his Territory. They comment on what a nice car it is and how well such a car would do over in the good ole US of A.

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    People always gotta eat. The rest is fluff.

    I think yall missed it in the commode falcoon wrangling
    (ps we own a veesix commode wagon just to put in some credentials)

    If you dont eat you dont ****
    If you dont **** you die

    We need to get real and realise that the "emerging market" is not ID-gismoid-Irrific-upskilling-matrixification
    BUT IT IS SUPPLYING THE # BILLION NORTHERNERS WITH FOOD

    we have dirt

    we have water

    we should use it rather than **** our rocks away at 2 cents a giga-tonne


    red-wine enhanced Steve matrix enabled over and out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    The question remains, that if we want to compete with Thai or Chinese workers for wages and conditions then we can have car, washing machine or food processing plants.

    Diana
    Though we won't be able to afford the products we manufacture, just like the Thai and Chinese workers.
    Last edited by 2stroke; 11th February 2014 at 05:58 AM. Reason: edited to make sense, hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Im pretty good at rubbing my crystal balls!!!!!!
    When the dust settles I bet we still get a Dunnydoor and Falcoon,made in China or the Phillipines etc.Lets just see.
    Andrew
    With the new free trade agreement signed with Korea their goods enter Australia without paying one single cent in tariffs.
    China in 2011/12 provided one billon dollars in subsides for the car industry upsetting USA government and on the top of that they keep their currency artificially low.
    I cannot say any more, the rest is stuff for the Cantina

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