Thread: ALCOA CLOSING

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This may have something to do with the soon-to-be global shortage of aluminium,, with Detroit switching lots of sheet metal over to ally the two big ally providors are in a slight pickle---

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

Alcoa is closing ops in Australia, the tsunami of closures is continuing.
I watched a media speech not so long ago where Abbott was saying that our business will change, where we loose manufacturing, technology jobs will take their place.
So all these unskilled production process workers who are job less are going to fill IT jobs???, some are getting on and retraining is not an option.
With the country becoming unemployed who is going to pay the welfare of all these unemployed workers who lost their jobs, Higher taxes on the ones that are lucky to still have a job.

This is a pet hobby horse of mine having worked for major manufacturers and in the Commonwealth welfare system.

There are currently in round figures 500,000 unemployed and 800,000 disability pensioners in Australia. Many of the DSP's would work if a job could be found. Not all these people are dole bludgers or malingering hypochondriacs. Most are genuine and in need of jobs and help.

It is only manufacturing that will provide the large numbers of no skill and low skill jobs that will employ a considerable percentage of these people.

Our governments of all political philosophies have been cowards in standing up to our overseas trading partners. Decades ago government should have identified industries that will employ these numbers and told the overseas makers "You want to sell your goods in Australia? Then welcome. Australia is open for business. No tariffs, no quotas, sell as many as you can here. There is one proviso. You will employ Australians by making or assembling your goods here."

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

This is a pet hobby horse of mine having worked for major manufacturers and in the Commonwealth welfare system.

There are currently in round figures 500,000 unemployed and 800,000 disability pensioners in Australia. Many of the DSP's would work if a job could be found. Not all these people are dole bludgers or malingering hypochondriacs. Most are genuine and in need of jobs and help.

It is only manufacturing that will provide the large numbers of no skill and low skill jobs that will employ a considerable percentage of these people.

Our governments of all political philosophies have been cowards in standing up to our overseas trading partners. Decades ago government should have identified industries that will employ these numbers and told the overseas makers "You want to sell your goods in Australia? Then welcome. Australia is open for business. No tariffs, no quotas, sell as many as you can here. There is one proviso. You will employ Australians by making or assembling your goods here."

you wasting your breath brian they are all to smart to fall for that one..

Alcoa is closing three plants the Gelong smelter and two rolling plants. They are not exiting Australia. The Portland smelter will remain open, but it is bad news for Geelong.

While there will be the loss of jobs in Victoria and Yennora in NSW Alcoa will continue to employ about 4,200 people in other Australian plants. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-1...-henry/5266330 (For now)

However given that Alcoa received $40 million from the Gillard Government to subsidise the Geelong operations it does make one wonder about the benefit of corporate welfare. That same $40 million would have gone a long way to support the 1,000 retrenched Alcoa workers with unemployment benefits and retraining.

it was given to them to keep the plant running till feb 2014 so the gov had some chance of getting something in place to help

who was to know that there would be another 50k unemployed headed that way by then after a change of gov.

nothing to do with corp welfare, the new buzzword of the tea bag culture...

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Alcoa is closing three plants the Gelong smelter and two rolling plants. They are not exiting Australia. The Portland smelter will remain open, but it is bad news for Geelong.

While there will be the loss of jobs in Victoria and Yennora in NSW Alcoa will continue to employ about 4,200 people in other Australian plants. Aluminium producer Alcoa confirms decision to close Point Henry smelter, rolling mills - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (For now)

However given that Alcoa received $40 million from the Gillard Government to subsidise the Geelong operations it does make one wonder about the benefit of corporate welfare. That same $40 million would have gone a long way to support the 1,000 retrenched Alcoa workers with unemployment benefits and retraining.

So you are saying using public money to prop up these company's is a wast of money ? Well Ile be blown some common sense.

Sorry Inc, it wasn't corporate welfare, it was obviously political welfare to keep the announcement quiet till a little after the election.