Thread: Club plates insurance

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

And you are an enthusiast, in the group of owners, like Shane, who I believe do care about their cars and the maintenance of them. It is my point.

I would like to know that everyone who drives a classic were as careful as Shane (we know that you are "known to Police" in another thread ) but you and I both know that is not true of many people.

And it's the enthusiasts that get the club permits.

Yep. Known to police. In a motor vehicle on full registration.
When I get behind the wheel of a classic I turn from "Fearless Fly" to Hirem.
Slow and steady is the way of the classics.
You should drive in Melbourne occasionally. It's the young chicky babes in their little Hyundais or Daewoos that are aggressively charging all over the place. Never involved in an accident but leave a trail of destruction in their wake.

Oh, just as a side comment, I've driven in Adelaide. It's like driving in a big country town. I've driven in Melbourne. They're somewhat aggressive. I was always fearful of driving in Sydney as I thought it would be a similar difference to Melbourne as Melbourne is to Adelaide. Well, a few weeks ago I was driving in Sydney traffic towing a tandem and what a pleasure it was. You Sydney drivers are so courteous. Not once was I forced off the road. Whenever I wanted to change lanes, a gap would open up allowing me to slot in. Don't get that in Melbourne. If you want to change lanes all the traffic closes up. "You're not getting in front of me, mate!"
Well done Sydney.
Melbourne may be the worlds most livable city but Sydney is the worlds most drivable one.

And as Club Registrar I've got the responsibility of declining renewal and notifying the RMS when a member isn't complying with the RMS Historic Vehicle Policy and the Club's Rules.

There have been members of many clubs, including my own who have never been seen on club trips or at club meetings yet manage to get many thousands of km on the vehicle in a year.

These also get reported to the CMC (NSW Council of Motoring Clubs), who are also mandated to notify the RMS who will cancel the conditional permit and in turn may audit a Club.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

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Oh, just as a side comment, I've driven in Adelaide. It's like driving in a big country town. I've driven in Melbourne. They're somewhat aggressive. I was always fearful of driving in Sydney as I thought it would be a similar difference to Melbourne as Melbourne is to Adelaide. Well, a few weeks ago I was driving in Sydney traffic towing a tandem and what a pleasure it was. You Sydney drivers are so courteous. Not once was I forced off the road. Whenever I wanted to change lanes, a gap would open up allowing me to slot in. Don't get that in Melbourne. If you want to change lanes all the traffic closes up. "You're not getting in front of me, mate!"
Well done Sydney.
Melbourne may be the worlds most livable city but Sydney is the worlds most drivable one.

You are being sarcastic aren't you?

Diana

Some clubs here have rules that you must attend a minimum number of events to maintain the permit.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

You are being sarcastic aren't you?

No. I may be inaccurate due to my limited overseas driving experience (I have driven on Philip Island) but I found it a pleasurable experience driving from St Mary's to Dubbo and back. OK, the roads tended to weave around in an unplanned fashion (not like Canberra that just goes round and round in circles, so that in the end, you don't actually get anywhere). I'd much rather drive in Sydney than Melbourne.

Maybe its because in Sydney we are used to getting nowhere fast, so you may as well let a Victorian with a trailer in.

Pitty I wasn't able to get out to see you.

If you want a thrill, come and drive in Brisbane during evening peak hour if you get 1 blink from the car ahead when he changes lanes you will be lucky, and the Bimbos in the Getz's drive like they stole them, why else would they cut off loaded B-Doubles

Originally Posted by UncleHo

and the Bimbos in the Getz's drive like they stole them, why else would they cut off loaded B-Doubles

Oh, they're up there too. Texting on their phones like they do down here?

I bet they're not on club plates.

Nah! probably Mummy or Daddy bought the car for sticking it out and doing year 12, and pay for their rego and insurance as they all tend to look a bit like 1st year hairdressing apprentices or Uni/Tafe Students with death wishes remember up here one can get a learners permit at 16 1/2 then one does 100 hours before being able to go for their Red "P"s. once they have that is the first lap around Bathurst

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

It is these old banger owners who look for cheap rego (or no rego) that never maintain their cars and are therefore more likely to have mechanically related crashes.

Without periodic inspections or the supervision of enthusiast clubs, how do we get the old dangerous bangers off the road?

Here in VIC I don't see it like that at all.

The VIC Full Rego
- requires safety inspection to acquire plates
- can then be neglected

The VIC Club Scheme
- requires safety inspection to acquire plates
- can then be neglected

Man on Full Rego, bought a second hand car at 5 years old, has had it for 10 years with little to no maintenance. Treats it as a banger with view to drive until it dies. It continues to run, has no brake pads, bald tires, worn suspension bushes etc. This is a danger to the road!

Man on Club Scheme rego, +25 year old car. Has just passed safety inspection and received his club plates. He aims to treat his crappy old car as a banger with a view to thrash it around until it dies. On a car this old it not likely to go very fast or last very long without maintenance! The car is much more likely to brake down beyond economical repair before the brake pads wear out!


If you want to improve safety of cars on the road you would do it with an annual safety inspection for ALL vehicles.

The VIC Roads Club Permit scheme is brilliant.