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    Well Deano, in this instance you're being ridiculous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanoH View Post
    In the real, non politically correct world, there are two sorts of snakes. Live ones and ones at my place.
    It's really simple. No potential risk to human life is worth a snakes continued existence. Get over it, kill the bastard and move on.


    Deano
    80%-85% of snake bites are suffered by people who, at the time, were trying to kill the snake that bit them. Keep on killing them Deano, it improves your chances of being a statistic. The more informed will just leave them alone.

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    It is definitely not a Taipan or Eastern Brown or even a Brown Tree Snake.
    From the pic it looks like a Common tree snake or even a keelback.

    Treat all snakes as venomous if you are uncertain as to what it is.
    Do not try to kill them as more people are bitten trying to kill snakes.

    All snakes are protected under Australian Law. It is illegal to kill even a taipan..

    Leave the snake alone and call a licensed snake catcher if the snake is inside the house or posing a nuisance outside.

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    My cat has been dropping baby eastern browns at our front door with their tails bitten off .I then have to take their heads off .surprised the cats alive it's a **** of a thing the Mrs got when I was on deployment

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidsd1 View Post
    My cat has been dropping baby eastern browns at our front door with their tails bitten off .I then have to take their heads off .surprised the cats alive it's a **** of a thing the Mrs got when I was on deployment

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    Jeez, must be some cat.
    We had a farm raised tabby for 19 yrs, & he was catching Possums until just before he died, he'd bring 'em to the front step, separate the head from the body & leave 'em there,...some were considerably bigger than him,....but I don't think he'd come off so well against a snake!
    Pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugu80 View Post
    80%-85% of snake bites are suffered by people who, at the time, were trying to kill the snake that bit them.
    One of those often quoted but never substantiated statistics that 'sounds good' to justify a position.

    And what of the OP, catching an unknown possibly venomous snake, maybe a taipan to 'release' somewhere 'safe' ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ugu80 View Post
    ................................. Keep on killing them Deano, it improves your chances of being a statistic............
    Hardly a convincing argument for the 'protection' of snakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by ugu80 View Post
    .................................... The more informed will just leave them alone.
    At least on this we can (partially) agree. To kill snakes in their own bushland environment is totally unjustified.

    NOT to kill venomous snakes in your own backyard where they are a risk to life or livestock is IMO both negligent and irresponsible. Snakes are territorial creatures, they won't just go away.
    In the cities there may be professional snake catchers who will, presumably at some expense, come around and endeavour to catch the odd inconvenient snake. In the country we have shovels.


    Deano

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    On mine sites we have catchers!
    I'm one of them.

    We remove them from under vehicles, in cabins and work areas.

    They are transported about 2 km away and released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Well Deano, in this instance you're being ridiculous...
    May have come on a bit hard Tombie, but I'm sick of the 'all animals great and small' being more important than, or as equally important as people arguments.

    Whether it's an idiotic woman (ABC news a while back) actually crying over the 'trauma' of trying to rid dirty, filthy, stinking, diseased fruit bats that had taken over a NSW country towns park, or the nit-wits that would rather see kangaroos in plague proportions die agonisingly of starvation rather than be professionally culled. Or maybe the 'well meaning fools' that wanted feeding stations set up on Fraser Island to feed the unsustainable dingo population that had grown from tourist feeding/refuse after this un-natural food source was removed. The list goes on...............

    Common sense doesn't seem to be as common as it used to be.


    Deano

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanoH View Post
    One of those often quoted but never substantiated statistics that 'sounds good' to justify a position.


    NOT to kill venomous snakes in your own backyard where they are a risk to life or livestock is IMO both negligent and irresponsible. Snakes are territorial creatures, they won't just go away.
    In the cities there may be professional snake catchers who will, presumably at some expense, come around and endeavour to catch the odd inconvenient snake. In the country we have shovels.
    So by that rational, I'm sure you'd kill all the bees in your backyard too as they kill more people each year than snakes.

    Remember to suck the venom out when they bite too

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    Hey Deano, the exact percentages of snake victims coming from trying to kill the snake is moot, anywhere upward of 70% is claimed, but that the majority of bite victims were trying to kill the attacking snake is verified by ambulance and hospital statistics and by the research of the following, just to name a few:

    Professor Bryan Fry, a venom expert at the University of Queensland

    Bradley C 2008. Venomous bites and stings in Australia to 2005 (Dr Clare Bradley Research Fellow Research Centre for Injury Studies)

    Sutherland & King, 1991 Management of Snake Bite Injuries: (Struan Keith Sutherland was head of the Australian Venom Research Unit, Department of Pharmacology, University of Melbourne 1994-2001).
    (Dr Kathleen King Royal Flying Doctor Service of Australia)

    Where you are right, snakes are territorial. However,if you remove/kill any snakes then others will move in. If a snake thinks it's a nice place to be then so will others. Mostly they are attracted to prey (mice/rats), a water source and shelter. As much open space as possible around the house is the best deterrent.

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