Thread: Clutch Pipe Materials

As long as the hose is a brake hose, or designed for use in a brake system it will. The vehicle would have had a flexible hose as standard in the location you describe.
I would assume that if the hose as been there a while and the clutch is working that the hose is indeed designed for this purpose.
Cheers, Martin

Originally Posted by marting

As long as the hose is a brake hose, or designed for use in a brake system it will. The vehicle would have had a flexible hose as standard in the location you describe.
I would assume that if the hose as been there a while and the clutch is working that the hose is indeed designed for this purpose.
Cheers, Martin

Hello Martin,

Thank you for the reply. The pipe is of unknown history and origin from a previous owner - or 2, or 3 or...

The other Series 3 Land Rovers I have feature short lengths of steel braided pipe that bend around from a bracket fixed on the fire wall and then goes over the bell housing and connects to more metal pipe. It then connects at a bracket and goes into a braided steel/rubber pipe near the slave cylinder.

The pipe currently on the diesel is un-braided and runs about 10 cm short from the clutch master cylinder one end and 10 cm short from the clutch slave cylinder. At either end of the black hose are the threaded fittings that connect to the metal pipes that feed into either clutch master cylinder or the clutch slave cylinder.

Not knowing any better I suspect it is a bodgey job that has never had a vehicle inspection. It is a Queensland vehicle after all

Kind Regards
Lionel

I would not say bodgey. Just different to a normal land rover set up. Is the rubber hose ribbed ? All the brake and clutch hoses I have come across are. Another check is a bit messy but would be good. Undo any any end and see if the pipe has a double flare on it as it should. The brackets that the land rover pipes use are necessary as they would reduce vibration of the steel pipes. There is no real issue running rubber all the way from the master to the slave other than rubbing some where.
Cheers Hall

Hello All,

The metal pipes that remain fitted to the Series 3 diesel are modified versions of the following parts numbers in the two attached pages out of a parts catalogue: From Clutch Master cylinder 577687 and from the Clutch Slave Cylinder 594776.

So what is currently there is 577687 joins on to black hydraulic pipe that joins on to 594776.

The black hydraulic hose runs in between the two parts. No there are no attachments to any brackets as they must have been cut off by a previous owner. The whole hose is unsupported along its full length.

The following parts numbers from the Clutch Master cylinder are absent: 592510 & 592383


Kind Regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Hall

I would not say bodgey. Just different to a normal land rover set up. Is the rubber hose ribbed ? All the brake and clutch hoses I have come across are. Another check is a bit messy but would be good. Undo any any end and see if the pipe has a double flare on it as it should. The brackets that the land rover pipes use are necessary as they would reduce vibration of the steel pipes. There is no real issue running rubber all the way from the master to the slave other than rubbing some where.
Cheers Hall

Hello Hall,

Inspired by what you wrote about checking the pipe for a double flare I went into the shed armed with a torch and rotated the pipe for a better inspection. During this rotation I saw some white writing that I have never seen before. It says...

Parker Parflex 500N ON - 4 SAE 100 R7 2750 psi (190 bar) Use 54/55 series fittings. Similar to this stuff on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parker-Parfl...item258bf5d92d

I am not sure what the codes all mean however the rating of 2750 psi is a bit of a confidence builder.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Hi Lionel,

Both my Series 3s have metal pipe on the firewall and on the engine with a flex pipe between them. I have just looked up the parts manual and that is the way it should be according to that.



Cheers,

TimJ.

Damn, just saw you had posted that while I was working out how to get the picture up . If it really worries you that pipe is available from any of the usual suppliers, I have bought one from FWD here in Brisbane before.

TimJ.

Originally Posted by Timj

Damn, just saw you had posted that while I was working out how to get the picture up . If it really worries you that pipe is available from any of the usual suppliers, I have bought one from FWD here in Brisbane before.

TimJ.

Hello TimJ.

My main concern was trying to get passed what an Authorised Inspector at a mechanics, or the Department of Transport Inspector might find unusual. As the vehicle has not been registered for years and never by me.

Seeing that the pipe is made by a reputable manufacturer, and as you say it is readily available, is a bit of a weight off my mind. I have to get the two lengths of pipe 577687 (Master Cylinder pipe) and 594776 (Clutch slave cylinder pipe) re-made anyway.

I will use the Parker Parflex pipe and make some brackets for it so it is not floating around and looks like a professional person installed it. Hopefully by doing that it does not raise any undue attention during inspection.

Kind Regards
Lionel