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    Quote Originally Posted by 460cixy View Post
    Not a chance and don't mention the unions and toyota for Christ sake
    are you bringing religion into this?

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    Might as well we have politics involved

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    Watching the American news this morning, they are talking about charges being laid , against GM management. The Congressional investigation was live on Fox this morning, interesting stuff.





    GM's Silence Over 13 Names Denies Hundreds Closure - NBC News


    And another recall.


    Driveshaft (Manual Only)

    PRA number: 2014/14039
    Date published: 2nd April 2014

    Product information

    Product description

    JH Cruze 1.8 Litre Petrol (Manual Only)
    Identifying features

    JH Cruze 1.8 Litre Petrol with Manual transmission only.

    2013 MY
    Build Dates: 18/10/2012 - 05/03/2013

    2014 MY
    Build Dates: 18/03/2013 - 07/03/2014

    VIN RANGE
    6G1PD5E50DL814248 - 6G1PD6EMXEL968206
    What are the defects?

    Right hand tubular driveshaft may fracture and separate causing sudden loss of driving power.
    What are the hazards?

    If the driveshaft fractures and then separates without warning the vehicle will endure a sudden loss of drive, potentially posing an accident hazard to the driver and other road users.
    Where the product was sold


    • Nationally

    Traders who sold this product

    All Holden Dealers Nationally
    Supplier

    GM Holden Ltd
    What should consumers do?

    Customers should contact their nearest Holden Dealer for a free of charge inspection, and if necessary a replacement Driveshaft.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    So we're got the world's two largest automakers Toyota and GM in big trouble for hiding faults from consumers, resulting in deaths and injuries. Toyota was found to have hidden the problem which caused its vehicles to accelerate and drivers to be unable to stop the vehicles. GM has ignitions catching fire.
    Yet, we still have Toyota and GM owners refusing to accept the facts and continuing to slag off LR, which hasn't had these problems. Talk about being one-eyed! Never let the facts get in the way of a deeply-held prejudice.

    Toyota fined $1.2bn over recall - Telegraph

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    Unhappy Vale GMH & Ford

    I used to drive past the Ford plant at Campbellfield every day and it really amazed me all the NON-Ford products in the carpark. All the Ford workers so distressed about the loss of jobs but where was the loyalty to their own employer and product.

    Same applied to Holden at Fishermans Bend. Try working for VW in Germany, if you want your job you drive a VW.

    Amazing that car assembly workers,(they are not qualified tradespersons) can earn more money than fully qualified tradespersons that have completed a 4 year apprenticeship, and they wonder why the manufacturers have decided building in Australia is too costly

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    I'm going to regret this ........


    The light on the hill is a 24hour ATM that accepts union official credit cards
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Clancy MY15 110 Defender

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    GM defects, Toyota Defects (hidden)
    Did we forget VW Defects that were hidden and even refuted just recently?
    All manufacturers have defects but it is whether they chose to hide them or actually be pro active and admit them and rectify them.

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    And LR classifies them as iconic design features
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
    apologies to Socrates

    Clancy MY15 110 Defender

    Clancy's gone to Queensland Rovering, and we don't know where he are

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    Aside from the day of the senate hearing it's not getting much media coverage in the US at the moment.

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    Don't want to labour the point, But another recall, this time Toyota, Bob


    Date published: 31st March 2014

    Product information

    Product description

    Toyota LandCruiser VDJ7# equipped with ABS brakes
    Identifying features

    LandCruiser VDJ7#
    JTE EV73J# 00008761 - 00010163
    JTE RV71J# 00005989 - 00006736
    JTE RV73J# 09001428 - 09001708
    JTE BV71J# 04000001 - 04005420
    JTE LV71J# 00028750 - 00033096
    JTE LV73J# 09010556 - 09014211

    Production period - 5/2012 through to 3/2014

    (Note: Not all vehicles within the VIN range were sold in Australia)
    What are the defects?

    Under certain conditions the flexible brake hose bracket located on the front differential may fracture around the securing bolt and break, possibly resulting in the leakage of brake fluid.
    What are the hazards?

    If the defect occurs, braking effectiveness is reduced, increasing the risk of a collision.
    Where the product was sold


    • Nationally

    Traders who sold this product

    Authorised Toyota dealers
    Supplier

    Toyota Motor Corporation Australia Limited
    Supplier's web site

    http://www.toyota.com.au
    What should consumers do?

    Consumers should avoid driving on corrugated roads at speeds greater than 80kmh. Owners will receive a campaign notification by mail at their last known address to present their vehicle to a Toyota dealer for rectification at no charge to the owner.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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