Thread: Failed License Test For One Km Over

GPS are not legal speed measuring devices, the only device available to the driver is the speedo and he (sic) was failed on that point. However it would be a fair bet to suggest the examiner had a number of other concerns about the driving skill set.

After all if the driver was pushing the limit during the test, how much more would the limit be pushed after gaining the P plate. Do we want another fatality crash with young drivers at the wheel.

BTW: Most modern cars have a digital display of the number as well as the needle.

I don't know about here but in the tests in the UK you accumulate points when doing things wrong during a test... I think 13 and you have failed

If its like that here its quite possible that is what gave him his final point

In the legislation the Speed Limit (see what I did there) Is just that, the limit.

Whilst we have all been raised to believe it is the target, it is not..
Most of us have taken advantage of previous 'good faith' and gone 8-10% above this without penalty.

However the Traffic acts for each state clearly specify that exceeding the limit by any amount is an offense.

When doing a driving license test, the operator should be acting very aware of these rules and perform their driving accordingly.

Originally Posted by dullbird

I don't know about here but in the tests in the UK you accumulate points when doing things wrong during a test... I think 13 and you have failed

If its like that here its quite possible that is what gave him his final point

Here in NSW speeding is an instant fail



Erich

Originally Posted by dullbird

I don't know about here but in the tests in the UK you accumulate points when doing things wrong during a test... I think 13 and you have failed

If its like that here its quite possible that is what gave him his final point

When I did my test you would accumulate points for minor things, but there were some that were instant fail. Speeding was one and lane discipline was another.

In this instance I wonder if you could argue that you weren't speeding due to the inaccuracy of the speedo (given that they can be up to 10% optimistic and still be legal).

Just a question that someone may know the actual answer.

When we talk about driver breath alcohol testing, the limit is 0.05. A reading of 0.049 is a pass while a reading of 0.05 is a fail.

Is it the same with speeding.

In a 100kph limit zone is a driver legal when he is doing 100kph or only if he is doing 99.9kph (or less)?

In which case the driver under test in this thread was actually 2 kph over the limit.

Originally Posted by BigJon

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In this instance I wonder if you could argue that you weren't speeding due to the inaccuracy of the speedo (given that they can be up to 10% optimistic and still be legal).

IIRC in NSW the rules for vehicle inspectors is that speedos must read below and not above. So at a speedo reading of 100 kph the vehicle must be doing 95kph +/- 5% speedo innaccuracy.

Digital speedo will read an "exact" amount. It's still open to fault, though being hard one could argue that if a student was to exceed the given limit they are still being careless and thus this warrants penalty.

Mind you, I failed a P's test nearly a decade ago when the instructor insisted I performed a maneuver incorrectly - when I asked for clarification with the rule book and he found he was wrong I was failed for "disagreeing with the instructor". I accepted my failed score sheet and politely* requested the tester exit the vehicle, then 3 months later did it in another town...

*-I wasn't polite.

Depending on where you are, you can have a horror tester, there was an individual locally who was actually stood down because she refused to pass any male on their first test.
I failed the first time for "not checking my blind spots" and by that they meant not physically turning my head in a visible enough display that I was.
Went back and passed with full marks the second time
However, as I was doing it in the echo, the examiner was unable to see the speedo, as it's angled towards the driver from the centre of the dash. He wasn't phased by it, had a bit of a chuckle about it afterwards.
But if you're pushing the limits on a driving test, one has to wonder....