the political correctness and do gooders have gone too far

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Careful JohnF...

Those "Stupid" courts also uphold the laws of this nation that allow you to go around Thumping Biblical material and prehistoric opinions in peoples faces without persecution.

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I did not mention any thing about a Biblical position on this. I mentioned what a Haemotology person or a Microscopist would see if they looked at the blood. That can only be changed by a bone marrow transplant, putting a person at risk of death.

I did not take any view of the morality or not of this particular matter. It was purely a view from a perspective from looking down a microscope.

All my Haemotology text books and Haemotology atlas do give this infomation. It is basic to the Science of Haemotology

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Originally Posted by JohnF

Even if a stupid court defines the person another way :D

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Did you forget this bit JohnF ???

Here's a good column on why this decision is important.

https://theconversation.com/why-norr...everyone-25200

I can understand a "male"being born in a females body and vice versa,seen it first hand as well as articles on the subject.However,a male may have all the surgery and hormone treatment in the world,same applies to a "female" who wants to be a male,their choice,good luck to them,but genetically they are still male or female.Why anyone would want to be classified as neither is beyond me,and i think the high court has more important things to do than waste tax dollars on this :mad:Bleeding heart do gooders,over to you.

The high court is there for exactly this sort of thing - making interpretation on opaque laws. What else should they be up to?

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Originally Posted by JohnF

I did not mention any thing about a Biblical position on this. I mentioned what a Haemotology person or a Microscopist would see if they looked at the blood. That can only be changed by a bone marrow transplant, putting a person at risk of death.

I did not take any view of the morality or not of this particular matter. It was purely a view from a perspective from looking down a microscope.

All my Haemotology text books and Haemotology atlas do give this infomation. It is basic to the Science of Haemotology

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WTF! :confused:

What is a microscopist? :confused:

A haematology person? :confused: What the porter cleaner in haematology? maybe the phelbotomist?

Can you explain the differences in female blood cells and male blood cells when you view them through a microscope? (Even when using a Scanning Electron Microscope)

Haematology is a discipline within science (biology) or within medicine, not the otherway around.

Can you explain how a person's phenotype is changed by a BMT?

Why does that put a person at risk of death? (Remember I have administered BMT)

If you cant even get simple terms correct, how can we expect your opinions to be anything more than overly simplistic and not related to the real world.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

WTF! :confused:

What is a microscopist? :confused:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Microscopist



A haematology person? :confused: What the porter cleaner in haematology? maybe the phelbotomist?

Can you explain the differences in female blood cells and male blood cells when you view them through a microscope? (Even when using a Scanning Electron Microscope)

http://www.medialabinc.net/spg28945/barr_body.aspx


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barr_body

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...20cell&f=false



Haematology is a discipline within science (biology) or within medicine, not the otherway around.

Most Pathology Labs have a Haemotology Department.


Can you explain how a person's phenotype is changed by a BMT?

Only the phenotype of that person's blood is changed, not of every cell in his or her body. If we gave a bone Marrow Transplant with the donor having leukaemia to someone we would have given him Leukaemia from that bone Marrow Transplant. If we had a donor with Sickle cell Anaemia and gave his marrow to someone we would have given them Sickle Cell Anaemia. Same with bllod transfusion. We can tell whether or not the blood is from a Female.

Why does that put a person at risk of death? (Remember I have administered BMT)

Bone marrow transplants usually require giving the patient a heavy does of radiation to kill all existing bone marrow cells [totally suppressing the imune System]. Then new bone marrow is introduced. New marrow does not always take, infections can happen before New Marrow takes, etc. Getting a bone Marrow Transplat puts you at risk of death.

Bone marrow transplant - Risks - NHS Choices

Bone marrow transplant: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Bone Marrow Transplantation in Children


If you cant even get simple terms correct, how can we expect your opinions to be anything more than overly simplistic and not related to the real world.

I did get my simple terms carrect.

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I was a Pathology Technician and at one time worked in a Haemotology Department of a Pathology Pivate Practice Laboratory, doing Differential Counts on blood smears, that is counting white blood cells spread thin on a glass slide under a microscope, looking at whether or not cells were normal, etc., and also reporting on any abnomalities in the Red blood cells, platelets, etc. as visable under the microscope. In other words I was to decide whether or not the blood cells showed a gross abnormality. I was the very first person to diagnose a Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia in one woman [she was actually diagnosed with T-cell Leukaemia, T-cells being Lymphoblastic]. I had to ring the doctor and tell him his patient had Leukaemia.

As soon as I saw it was Leukaemia, I ammediately showed the slide to my boss who thought I was wrong in my diagnosis-- He thought it was a MyloMonocytic Lekaemia. But I gave my diagnosis to the GP who sent the patient to Westmead Hosptal. And a T-cell is Lympobalstic, hence I was right and my boss was wrong--Haemotology was not my bosses' area of expertise.

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Originally Posted by JohnF

I was a Pathology Technician and at one time worked in a Haemotology Department of a Pathology Pivate Practice Laboratory, doing Differential Counts on blood smears, that is counting white blood cells spread thin on a glass slide under a microscope, looking at whether or not cells were normal, etc., and also reporting on any abnomalities in the Red blood cells, platelets, etc. as visable under the microscope. In other words I was to decide whether or not the blood cells showed a gross abnormality. I was the very first person to diagnose a Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia in one woman [she was actually diagnosed with T-cell Leukaemia, T-cells being Lymphoblastic]. I had to ring the doctor and tell him his patient had Leukaemia.

As soon as I saw it was Leukaemia, I ammediately showed the slide to my boss who thought I was wrong in my diagnosis-- He thought it was a MyloMonocytic Lekaemia. But I gave my diagnosis to the GP who sent the patient to Westmead Hosptal. And a T-cell is Lympobalstic, hence I was right and my boss was wrong--Haemotology was not my bosses' area of expertise.

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I asked you to explain, anyone could do a Wikipedia or Free Dictionary search.

I know most Path labs have Haematology, there is one next door to me here. That wasn't my comment.

Having a tooth extraction or a blood transfusion has some risk of death. Even if it is only minimal, the disease that requires a person to have a BMT is likely to be a fatal disease. What I asked is why a BMT would be any more a risk? More than that, why did you even introduce the fact in this thread as it has little or nothing to do with the subject of this thread.

and how does this effect political correctness in the discussion?

seconds in front of me LOL.