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    Internet purchased "natural" "herbal" supplements

    Interesting article from the Medical Journal of Australia today, a case report of a woman who had been taking what were purported to be ginkgo bilbo and green tea slimming capsules purchased on the Internet and originating from China.

    She presented with thyroid toxicosis and abnormal liver function.

    When the remaining tablets were analyzed they contained a drug which is banned in Australia due to serious cardiac effects and dried raw animal thyroid tissue. Not only is this potentially dangerous from a pharmacological perspective but also poses a risk of transmission of serious infectious and spore borne diseases such as diseases similar to the human form of Mad Cow disease.

    I am not a big fan of alternative medicine at all, as the level of research with regards most of it is just not there, but regardless of your position on that, don't buy your supplies from overseas over the Internet you just don't know what is in it. Even sometimes when these products from overseas actually contain what they say they do they are dangerous. The article points to a product called ma Huang which has caused serious liver toxicity leading to death or liver transplantation in a number of patients.

    Buy only from established companies which comply with Australian standards.

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    I buy from India, or via India for my prescription meds (the now-few I still take) Never had a problem except payment. So cheap it's embarrasing.

    But your warning is timely. The 'alternatives' I buy come from long-established companies. - the US if sourcing online/overseas.

    Buying from China can be a risk when it concerns stuff going into your mouth...

    On the other hand, I would be wary of placing all my faith in 'Australian Standards'. Conventional western medicine has a history of getting drugs through the relevant authorities... only to have them withdrawn years later when deliberate dishonesty is exposed. - -Often by the 'Alternative' scene...

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    I buy from India, or via India for my prescription meds (the now-few I still take) Never had a problem except payment. So cheap it's embarrasing.

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    I remember when a Roche CEO disclosed that medicines not approved by the western countries or medicines that did not were approved by leading pharmaceuticals were unloaded in Bangladesh and other countries/locations were corruption was prevailing.
    I would be very careful to order medicines for India or any country for that matter. Health it is more important that money even if cost me selling the home to get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    I buy from India, or via India for my prescription meds (the now-few I still take) Never had a problem except payment. So cheap it's embarrasing.

    But your warning is timely. The 'alternatives' I buy come from long-established companies. - the US if sourcing online/overseas.

    Buying from China can be a risk when it concerns stuff going into your mouth...

    On the other hand, I would be wary of placing all my faith in 'Australian Standards'. Conventional western medicine has a history of getting drugs through the relevant authorities... only to have them withdrawn years later when deliberate dishonesty is exposed. - -Often by the 'Alternative' scene...
    Hopefully you are right that you have found reputable suppliers, but beware that there is a huge prescription drug counterfeiting problem also in third world countries, including in India so be very careful.

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    Back in 1995 when I was on holiday in the Middle East, I contracted Giardia in Egypt. When I used up my script of Flagyl that was in my travellers medical kit, I bought another course from a pharmacy in Cairo. I got sick again within a day or two. Turns out when I brought the tablets home and had them checked they only had trace amounts of the active ingredient. You get what you pay for I guess.

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    I must have been exceedingly fortunate with the variety of meds purchased... the BP stuff did indeed lower/"control" my blood pressure, the diuretic in it also appeared to work. Metformin took glucose out of my blood (and dumped it into the fat cells...) the Plavix made me bleed like a stuck pig from the slightest scratch... and so the list goes on. Odd thing too, some of the stuff was made in Italy and Denmark.
    Yep, I saw that program about fake medicines.... There is also the aspect that medicines destined for, say, the Indian market are priced at what the market can bear. In their case, not much. Same pills pedalled here in Oz are offered for.... -Yep, what the market can bear. They can come out of the same machinery but sent off to differant packaging lines.
    Indian patent laws are differant from ours, as I may have pointed out.

    Simplistically..., they can use the same raw materials as the well-known branded brew, stir it in the opposite direction and call it Viagra or Kamagra or Plavix or whatever. Legally.

    Not all prescription meds are cheaper overseas, some are actually less when purchased from chemist-type warehouses () in Australia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    I buy from India, or via India for my prescription meds (the now-few I still take) Never had a problem except payment. So cheap it's embarrasing.

    But your warning is timely. The 'alternatives' I buy come from long-established companies. - the US if sourcing online/overseas.

    Buying from China can be a risk when it concerns stuff going into your mouth...

    On the other hand, I would be wary of placing all my faith in 'Australian Standards'. Conventional western medicine has a history of getting drugs through the relevant authorities... only to have them withdrawn years later when deliberate dishonesty is exposed. - -Often by the 'Alternative' scene...
    Does this mean that their suppositories are OK ??????
    Cheers .........

    BMKAL


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