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    Is interesting that Chucaro is described as an "Old Bushie" . Seems to me - and probably any genuine bushie that his thinking is that of an urban greenie, even though he has apparently relocated to the bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mox View Post
    Is interesting that Chucaro is described as an "Old Bushie" . Seems to me - and probably any genuine bushie that his thinking is that of an urban greenie, even though he has apparently relocated to the bush.
    Are you running out of arguments that now have to post a comment about a member?
    Please go back to the topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    So, you are not only in favor of logging the NP but also poison the native fauna in a nondiscriminatory way ?
    If it is so we are lucky that you are in the minority and the people that DO GOOD are in the majority which I am on it and proud as well.

    This comment, aimed at wrinkearthur is an example of how the thinking of Chucaro is more like that of an urban greenie than an old bushie. In this case urban greenies who do not comprehend the problems noxious animals and plagues of native ones cause for both the environment and those who live in bush areas, especially next to forests. There are regular calls from city greenies to ban 1080 ie sodium monofluoracetate which is widely used as a poison bait. One problem is that despite its disadvantages, there is often no better alternative than to use it. This is one reason why 1080 use is strongly regulated, with those laying baits having had to do training courses and having permits. It is done in ways to try and maximise kill of target pests and minimise taking of baits by non target species. Regarding using it to kill foxes and wild dogs, which decimate both native animals and farmers' livestock, we hear greenies crying that quolls, etc are killed. Some Australia native species require several times the dose of 1080 to be lethal as for foxes and dogs. Even if a few non target animals are killed despite this and baiting techniques to try and avoid it, overall species like quolls can survive much better when foxes and wild dogs are removed.


    I am well aware that those who run short of arguments to support their preferred views often resort to name calling and other personal abuse against those with opposing opinions. Do not want to do that myself, However am effectively trying to point out how sometimes city type radical green activists try to misrepresent that the majority of locals in areas where there are controversial environmental issues support their viewpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mox View Post
    This comment, aimed at wrinkearthur is an example of how the thinking of Chucaro is more like that of an urban greenie than an old bushie. In this case urban greenies who do not comprehend the problems no................................................ ........................
    Your comment it is based in assumptions or uninformed opinion.
    Do you know my background including my formal studies and where I have lived and worked before? No of course not.
    You are entitled to have an opinion about any topic but not about the knowledge of a person that you do not know.
    Posts your opinions about the topic but not with assumptions of the knowledge of other members in the forum, it is not acceptable and chances are that you will finish with "an egg in your face"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    So, you are not only in favor of logging the NP but also poison the native fauna in a nondiscriminatory way ?
    If it is so we are lucky that you are in the minority and the people that DO GOOD are in the majority which I am on it and proud as well.
    So, Chucky, you are in favour of farmers crops failing and the social and economic disasters that will lead to.
    I hope you are truly committed to your values and refuse to buy any produce that is farmed as you may inadvertantly be supporting one of those nasty farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    So, Chucky, you are in favour of farmers crops failing and the social and economic disasters that will lead to.
    I hope you are truly committed to your values and refuse to buy any produce that is farmed as you may inadvertantly be supporting one of those nasty farmers.
    Oh yes Mick, the world it comes to an end, economies coapsing because farmers cannot use the poison 1080

    Do not forget to use the DTT and Dieldrin in your place before you have the same problem as the farmers

    back to the topic

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    Thank goodness that UNESCO was not taken in by Abbott's ranting or half-baked theories which don't take account of scientific facts about the value of certain forests. I'm on the side of science in this. I hope my children and grandchildren get to see what Tasmania once looked like, thanks to this decision.

    Sent from my D1 using overweight hamsters.

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    It is not the responsible use of poison we should be afraid of.

    But the lack of care by irresponsible people in the use of poisons.

    Worse still is the growth of weeds and scrub that litters block that have been let return to nature and the idea that spraying these growths is damaging the environment is completely upside down to common sense.

    Ref; Toxicity Categories

    Some of the chemicals we contact in our daily lives are man-made. These include some drugs, cosmetics, workplace chemicals, household cleaning agents, and so on. Many more chemicals which we are exposed to each day occur naturally and are found in our food, in the air, and in water. There are far more natural chemicals in our environment than man-made ones. Both man-made and natural chemicals can have poisonous effects.
    Some of the most toxic compounds to living creatures are not artificially made but can be found just over your back fence in suburbia,
    ----- a naturally occurring poison found in plant species such as poison bush, kite leaf poison bush, poison pea, and wallflower poison bush. Although native animals can eat the foliage, seeds and flowers of the plants with no ill effect, it is deadly on the feral animals that have not evolved alongside it.
    I dare you to find the rest of that quote, as it may surprise you.

    That is one reference, the other is people that love to do gardening can breed some of nature most lethal substances, anyone that practices composting should be aware that some fungus bred in that process can quickly kill you and are naturally organic. I could go on about this but my knowledge on this subject is self taught and therefore I'm not qualified to answer any questions.

    How does this posting tie in with the OP. Let the expert rule our lives or do we spend time to find out our own information and draw our own conclusions.
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