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  1. 24th June 2014, 06:56 PM #1
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    Is Canvas now a different material?

    I bought a set of car seat covers ( Ebay)that were described as canvas and when they arrived was disappointed to see that they were an ultra thin Dacron type material. So I left neutral feedback which prompted this email


    the canvas we use for the seatcovers is the Genuine Australian Army DPCU Canvas without lining. For reference please see;-
    DPCU Canvas backpack : RAN Boarding Party | Australian War Memorial
    We purchased the left over material which was used to manufacture uniforms & backbacks for the Australian Army in Afghanistan.
    for further reference, also please see;-
    What is Duck Cloth?
    I would greatly appreciate if you would revise your feedback to +ve
    Our Ebay is set up to automatically give you +ve feedback when we receive +ve feedback



    I have an ex army haversack here that is nothing like the seat covers. but it is this type.
    http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/REL30514.001/
    My question is, can a material that is not woven or cotton based be legally called canvas? Has the army got synthetic material that could be called canvas?


    Here is the product I bought & I think they are trying to BS me.
    Waterproof Dust Proof Heavy Duty Camo Canvas Seat Covers Front Pair Camouflage | eBay


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  2. 24th June 2014, 07:58 PM #2
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    Canvas is waterproof for a start and they describe these as being. that would be the first test I would do before going further. Just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJay View Post
    I would greatly appreciate if you would revise your feedback to +ve
    Our Ebay is set up to automatically give you +ve feedback when we receive +ve feedback
    nothing like a little feedback blackmail..
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    Good quality canvas is cotton, the cheap stuff like they use on imported camper trailers and tents is a polyester/cotton blend mostly more polyester than cotton.
    In ye olden times they used flax (linen ) and hemp to make canvas.
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    "Duck "canvas is cotton so i dont know where they get Dacron from, did you send them a message first before negative feedback ?
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    If it's not cotton or hemp and not woven I would contend that it isn't canvas. DPCU just means disruptive pattern combat uniform and says nothing about the material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnD3rew View Post
    If it's not cotton or hemp and not woven I would contend that it isn't canvas. DPCU just means disruptive pattern combat uniform and says nothing about the material.
    Exactly, false advertising. That should be enough for a refund i would think.
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    This is the link to the company that has the contract to produce Australian defence uniforms, they do not describe any of their fabrics as canvas.

    Military | brucktextiles.com.au
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    Thanks to all, especially AnD3rew, I emailed them back telling them the feedback sticks. We have 100% feedback on over 600 transactions, so I can live without their feedback.. - and I didn't contact them first as there is the opportunity to avoid the negative feedback ( ie offer a refund)
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  10. 25th June 2014, 02:00 PM #10
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    From Wikipedia:


    Modern canvas is usually made of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton"]Cotton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] or [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linen"]Linen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], although historically it was made from [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp"]Hemp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]. It differs from other heavy cotton fabrics, such as [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim"]Denim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], in being [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_weave"]Plain weave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] rather than [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twill"]Twill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]. Canvas comes in two basic types: plain and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_duck"]Cotton duck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]. The threads in duck canvas are more tightly woven. The term duck comes from the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language"]Dutch language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] word for cloth, doek. In the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States"]United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], canvas is classified in two ways: by weight (ounces per square yard) and by a graded number system. The numbers run in reverse of the weight so a number 10 canvas is lighter than number 4.


    Not sure what this means in your case.
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