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    Nissan Motorsport Jack Daniels Racing,Sooks Or Fair Enough?

    Todd Kelly has slammed a V8 supercars-imposed engine restriction which could cause the collapse of his factory-backed Nissan team.Kelly said Nissan had spent millions developing an engine for the V8 supercars series but they were being forced to run at a huge power disadvantage which will see them swamped on the straights in today's Townsville 500.


    Kelly predicted his Nissan Altima will lose 0.25sec on every lap today.Kelly has spent the last month trying to explain Nissan's horror season to sponsors and fans and has had to admit the team cannot win a race this year.

    "We need a miracle to win any race,"Kelly said. "It's a tough situation trying to keep all the sponsors and fans on side when this is the case.It will come to a point where we come to a grinding halt.We can't sustain an uncompetitive team.We need this sorted now."

    Kelly says Nissan would be winning races if they were allowed an engine concession similar to the one given to new manufacturer Volvo.We had to get a quad-cam engine with so many differences to the Ford and Holden engines to fit in the same rules and produce the same outcomes.It is impossible.

    "We have spent millions on research and development on this engine.We just can't be competitive until we are given a specification that works with this engine."

    The Nissan introduced to the sport last year under the car of the future,had to comply with a series of rules and regulations to ensure parity with rival manufacturers.With no V8 version of the Altima on the road,Kelly was forced to use a quad cam engine from a Nissan truck.

    "The simple fact is our engine is different to everyone else's,"Kelly said."And it hurt's us because we have to comply with the bore and strokes of the Holden and Ford"

    The Altima is regarded as a strong cornering car but has been swamped on the straights.The four Nissan's run by the second year team will lose 0.5sec a lap at Sandown because of a lack of straight line speed.

    "We know our car would run better straight away if we had a similar bore and stroke ratio to what another 4 valve engine has got,"Kelly said in an obvious reference to Volvo.

    "The only people who think parity is good are up the front,all you have to do is look at the data."We are last at every track on the straights."

    "We are good in the corners but stone motherless last on every straight,just watch us get swamped today."

    I was at the race yesterday and i must admit the Nissan's are slow down the straight.But having a crack at Volvo is not the way to fix it.There is some good points in what he is saying,but at the same time it sounds like some Kelly bros sooking as well.

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    IMO, breaking the Holden and Ford monopoly is the best thing to happen to the sport in years.
    I haven't been keeping up to speed with the racing as of late, but it's refreshing to see other makes on the track, as opposed to the Red and blue knuckle-draggers of years gone by.
    I agree there should be boundaries for engines in these vehicles, but detuning a car to meet the characteristics of the lowest common denominator is not good sport in my eyes. Anyone who remembers the relatively unregulated Group B rally series of the 80's will understand how awesome this could turn out to be.

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    Its fair enough. They need to provide a business model that reflects well on their sponsors, and likewise V8SC need to develop a model that promotes parity. Admittedly, the vast majority of speed is found in drivers and chassis, but 0.25-0.5s per lap is a massive power deficit and a critical performance deficit in such a tight field. V8SC have developed parity through basically making all of the vehicle chassis the same, perhaps they need to further refine 2v vs 4v engine specifications with the Polestar motor being a sample or run a control engine.
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    Just another Kelly Brothers winge

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    When they were running Holdens they weren't getting much better results. Maybe they have to have a look at their own organisation.
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    I bet Red Bull get a fine & not loose the win for the race controller moving the tyre. If it was FPR they would get a drive through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1950landy View Post
    I bet Red Bull get a fine & not loose the win for the race controller moving the tyre. If it was FPR they would get a drive through.
    It will be determined by the Stewards based on the specific wording of the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1950landy View Post
    I bet Red Bull get a fine & not loose the win for the race controller moving the tyre. If it was FPR they would get a drive through.
    Yep another case of different rules for red bull,looks like jack**** will be done about it

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    Remember the First Law of Race Car Preparation, by Smoky Yunick. If the rule book doesn't specifically prohibit it, then it is permitted. The rules didn't say "Smoky, you can't use a 3" frame tube as a fuel pipe". Nor did it say "Smoky, you can't build a 7/8 scale body for better aerodynamics".
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    It appears that all the Ford fans here assume that moving a tyre that is no longer attached to the car constitutes working on the car.

    I wonder if the marshalls will interpret the rule the same way.

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