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    A kick in the guts to all of us

    One of my first workmates back in 1970 was an ex Australian soldier who together with his twin brother fight the Japanese in the second world war.
    I still remember very well one afternoon when we were fishing in Sydney middle harbor his pain and wet eyes when he told me about his twin brother body have been eating by the Japanese soldiers.
    he was so unforgiven that he never bought a Japanese made good since the war.
    I was thinking about him when I saw our Pm said: “We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task, although we disagreed with what they did. Perhaps we grasped, even then, that with a change of heart the fiercest of opponents could be the best of friends,”
    Canibalism, orture, starvation, murder and forced labour are not an honourable thing in my book.
    Just to think about the history of the Kokoda Track (Trail) campaign will make any Australian feel a kick in the guts!

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    Mate, it was terrible to be sure, but you have to let things go or you end up as Israel vs Palestine, or Muslims vs Christians....whatever. No race is perfect and for example, you can't blame today's young Germans for Hitler. The only things wrong with present day Japs are that they make pretty ugly under powered cars, build nuclear reactors on fault lines and want to eat endangered sea mammals. No use dredging up a long gone generation's cultural failings. Sorry.

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    Thanks for that Arthur, it must have taken a bit of fortitude for you to put that up here.

    I , too , have an old friend in Adelaide who was tortured so badly by the japanese he cannot even discuss them.

    His home basically has no known japanese items in it.

    But its signs of the times that our new (sic) leaders suck up to anyone.

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    Mike, I understand what you are saying but you are not going to say that what the Germans have done was an honorable thing just to compliment them during a free trade agreement.
    It was in the pass but was not honorable.

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    Arthur, I think that the Japanese have historically had a massive sense of honour. (I saw it in a Tom Cruise flick "the Last Samurai" ) However their ways were totally barbaric to us. Cheers mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikehzz View Post
    Mate, it was terrible to be sure, but you have to let things go or you end up as Israel vs Palestine, or Muslims vs Christians....whatever. No race is perfect and for example, you can't blame today's young Germans for Hitler. The only things wrong with present day Japs are that they make pretty ugly under powered cars, build nuclear reactors on fault lines and want to eat endangered sea mammals. No use dredging up a long gone generation's cultural failings. Sorry.
    Mike, while people are alive who endured the atrocities served to them by these people there is no reason to let things go as you say. It is not dredging , it is , as it should be , empathising and sympathising with those who suffered.

    THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ANZAC DAY!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post

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    THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ANZAC DAY!!!!!
    Anzac Day has nothing to do with calling into question the honour of former enemies. It's all about honouring those that served. No one benefits from resurrecting atrocities unless they think that injecting a bit of puss into a festering wound is helpfull. That's straight from the Middle Eastern playbook so bugger that.

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    Hey Sprint, please don't remind me that I'm sort of defending something Abbott has said...**** ME!! I think I just saw a pig fly by...

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    There is no rest without forgiveness. Many RSL veterans of WWII who fought against the Japanese and/or were POWs and suffered grievously, only found inner peace when they were able to travel to Japan and forgive their enemy...
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    My father fought the japs in new guinea,he was never a fan of theirs.The culture they had in ww2 was barbaric in the extreme.Just ask the chinese in the thirties not to mention our blokes.However,like our ww2 veterans,most of them are now dead,and newer generations are not taught about the war.Japan is now an ally and a friend[as they were in ww1] so we must be cordial to them.However,i still don't trust them.

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