Thread: Vortex diesel V ordinary diesel

Yes, In Karratha the cheapest fuel in town is at the BP truck terminal which is automated with credit card only and truck pumps.

Same at Kununurra with the Coop .

Thank goodness for the WA fuelwatch site which I discovered this on although nobody on the GRR is listed!LOL
I wish more towns had truck terminals as I don't need Mars bars.

Question, why is it possible for the WA government to have an excellent site but no one else has a worthwhile site for country towns. Motormouth is "OK" for the Gold Coast but pretty useless anywhere else. The RACQ site seems useless and NT is also pretty useless, although it did confirm some data I picked up on Exporeoz that Katherine is the cheapest place in NT.
Regards Philip A

I have no problem with foaming fuel, even with the Hi Flow pumps (D2a).
I do use IXL diesel conditioner which is made in the US. Cleans and lubricates injectors and also has an anti foaming agent which doesn't clog anything.

Cost is $32/ltr which treats 1,800 litres or $0.056c/ltr. This is significantly cheaper than the Wynns stuff sold by most servo's at around $8/tankful.

I have very carefully monitored fuel consumption now for 4 months and normal economy is 10.2ltr/100k, Prior to IXL, I was using 11.9. So it seems a pretty reasonable investment to me. It certainly more than offsets its own cost.

By the way my D2a is normally carrying around 400kg of stuff onboard too.

diesel fuel foaming back on me is almost a chronic problem.....I'm sure I'm not alone in this...who else has the problem?

btw I checked my hoses several times just to be sure and they are free.

some servos flow well, most foam like hell.....I also notice its less when the fuel is cooler i.e.. fill up in the morning.

Originally Posted by wardy1

I have no problem with foaming fuel, even with the Hi Flow pumps (D2a).
I do use IXL diesel conditioner which is made in the US. Cleans and lubricates injectors and also has an anti foaming agent which doesn't clog anything.

Cost is $32/ltr which treats 1,800 litres or $0.056c/ltr. This is significantly cheaper than the Wynns stuff sold by most servo's at around $8/tankful.

I have very carefully monitored fuel consumption now for 4 months and normal economy is 10.2ltr/100k, Prior to IXL, I was using 11.9. So it seems a pretty reasonable investment to me. It certainly more than offsets its own cost.

By the way my D2a is normally carrying around 400kg of stuff onboard too.

We'll be talking about this shortly Alan,, sounds good.

I have a custom built tray on my 130 (made by me) and the filler hose has a slight kink in it. It has the effect of making a strange noise as the tank gets close to full. It means I can use the truck pumps flat out and get a warning that it is full just a few seconds before it splashes out. It is a 'Custom Designed Anti Splash Warning Hose Kink' now.

I used to use the United servo just down the road from home, but gave up as it was impossible to use because of the foaming..

Now use Vortex and very happy, full flow on the handle no problem.
Only a cent per litre difference, don't shop at Woolworths so don't get that discount.

I have always used BP for all of my fuels (including my race bikes) and never had a complaint, then used their diesel and it seemed ok but it did foam. Then I used Caltex Premium Vortex Diesel and I can use the fast flow and I have increased my fuel economy by approx. 40kms per tank and that is monitored over 20 tank fulls. So I still use BP for Petrol but Caltex for Diesel.
I use the paper towelling at the servo for my hands and around the handle.

Originally Posted by benji

The difference between normal and vortex diesel is an antifoaming agent and a fuel system cleaner - that's it.

According to the mdss it hasn't got a higher cetane rating.

I wonder if truck diesel is the same as agricultural diesel, normally being less refined and having a higher sulphur level.

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No it's not, truck diesel is just regular diesel, you'll find that Ag diesel is not used like it used to be, due to the more modern diesels used in the trucking industry as well as any modern diesels, to high a sulpher levels.

As for these highflow pumps,

With the D4, the filler hole is small and the highflow nozzle won't fit, I still use it though, as long as you postion the end of the nozzle in the right place it works well, with a long range tank in our D4, it will take ages if you use the other pump.

Baz.