What is the point

**bob10** · 15th July 2014, 05:43 PM

Just to go a bit further, the minimum wage, how it came about, Bob

The Harvester judgement and Australia's minimum wage - ACTU Worksite for Schools

**ramblingboy42** · 15th July 2014, 06:24 PM

ok, seeing we are this far into this , I will put this link up to Dr John Hewsons warm blast at our current politicians.
Palmer the one to keep the bastards honest? - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

**bob10** · 15th July 2014, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

ok, seeing we are this far into this , I will put this link up to Dr John Hewsons warm blast at our current politicians.
Palmer the one to keep the bastards honest? - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Yes, but we must understand Palmer is a loose cannon, who has suddenly found himself in the big time. I don't think he has a clue, to be honest. It would be a great mistake to give him any more power. All he has done is take the focus off the traditional political foes, and given a focus to those who would vote informal anyway, or those who want to give a protest vote. Go down the Palmer avenue, is a recipe for disaster. Just my opinion. Bob

mikehzz · 15th July 2014, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by VladTepes

If voting was optional labor would never get into government again.

Then we could be just like America. Replace the ABC with Foxtel? So much to look forward to... A Daily Telegraph wet dream.

**Greatsouthernland** · 15th July 2014, 10:22 PM

Ooo

ooO

**incisor** · 16th July 2014, 07:42 AM

from my perspective

the "intent" is that there can be chat about current affairs but not to the point where party politics is dragged into the discussion.

some people take it that any mention of the current government policy is a party political comment and so the drivel starts again.

in my tiny mind i thought surely people could comment on the current state of affairs and/or the people that currently are supposed to represent all australians with out it descending into party political debate.

sadly, it is becoming pretty obvious that some simply cannot get their head around the idea though and chat about current affairs has to be politically driven.

**Chucaro** · 16th July 2014, 07:43 AM

This thread needs an expert in how to sidetrack it so politics are out .

derpomz · 16th July 2014, 08:45 AM

I started something and now will respond.

I came here from the old dart in 1970, having been born in 1948.

This is NOT meant to be against race. religion or sexuality. The reason i left the UK was because other religions were starting to influence the political landscape and i will go no further on this subject, but i think you know what i mean.
When we arrived we thought this place was paradise. The jobs ads in the papers were about 2 inches thick. Crime and drugs were not such an issues. i should kown as i am retired Policeman after 32 years service.

The changes i have seen shock me to the core. Gone are the days when Polies listened and also the courts. There is just this wilfull spite developing between Australians and its not right. Why is there so much anger around. Kids have always had an eye on the grog, but not like today. You could say things that today you can get locked up for, whats happening. The use of the American language is creeping so much it makes my groin itch.

Kids today seem to have lost something, but who do you blame and why do you want somebody to blame, is it the parents, the schools, who have lost the plot, i wish i knew the answer. What i do see is lack of regard for anybody and anything.

There i have vented again.

**Greatsouthernland** · 16th July 2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Chucaro

This thread needs an expert in how to sidetrack it so politics are out .

Know any?

that aren't environmentalists

Maybe a rap debate is in order, such as this....

[ame=http://youtu.be/dl7CLaZFG1c]George Washington vs William Wallace. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 3. - YouTube[/ame]

It is said Scotland is only famous for its haggis and golf?

**Greatsouthernland** · 16th July 2014, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by derpomz

I started something and now will respond.

I came here from the old dart in 1970, having been born in 1948.

This is NOT meant to be against race. religion or sexuality. The reason i left the UK was because other religions were starting to influence the political landscape and i will go no further on this subject, but i think you know what i mean.
When we arrived we thought this place was paradise. The jobs ads in the papers were about 2 inches thick. Crime and drugs were not such an issues. i should kown as i am retired Policeman after 32 years service.

The changes i have seen shock me to the core. Gone are the days when Polies listened and also the courts. There is just this wilfull spite developing between Australians and its not right. Why is there so much anger around. Kids have always had an eye on the grog, but not like today. You could say things that today you can get locked up for, whats happening. The use of the American language is creeping so much it makes my groin itch.

Kids today seem to have lost something, but who do you blame and why do you want somebody to blame, is it the parents, the schools, who have lost the plot, i wish i knew the answer. What i do see is lack of regard for anybody and anything.

There i have vented again.

Thanks Pom, just so you know, my comment on politics wasn't at your post, it was the one about a party not getting in if voting wasn't compulsory (

which has been deleted

). That opens up a whole 'my mob is right, yours is wrong slanging match'.

Yes I know a few Brits who are disappointed with the way the Euro system has changed the UK. I can see that there are those who miss the old social demographic.

As a fifth gen Aussie, whose relatives were not convicts and arrived in SA (apparently the only state not settled by convicts?) are from English, Irish, German and Swedish origin... So welcome from the old Dart, but I hope you don't expect it to be a lot better here in the religion influencing politics sense, there are certain socio-political groups advocating for more 'compassion' on border policy which will lead to what has happened in the UK, just my view...remember the 'fresh meat' and rape is acceptable scandal about 10 years ago.

As for who is to blame, kids and alcohol, escalating violence...that's a big topic, but I do think our society is too liberal with the booze and bogan lifestyle. Drinking age should be 21 (as it was) and nightclubs don't need to be open til 3am, this is where greed in the business sense (pubs, nightclubs, breweries, casinos) overrides sound political judgement.

As for crime, as a retired plod, surely you can see that the criminal is given too much protection, the homeowner is to blame if an 'alleged' criminal injures themselves breaking in. The sentence 'if any' doesn't fit the crime.

Why does Qld have a more supportive 'Castle Law' than the other states?

But back on track, don't give up. What to do? I'm all ears

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