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    Kevin Donnelly has no clue

    Why this bloke would seek to regress to physical violence when the same act by a parent would be assault.

    I know there are some kids that test a teachers resolve, but there are some teachers that aren't fit to teach, so to give them this method where they lack alternative skills, seems ludicrous.

    Yes I got the cane at school, once for climbing in a classroom window during lunch time to get one of my toys and once in boarding school for returning about an hour late from a day excursion. Hardly worth a whipin imagine what reasons would justify it these days...not listening?


    Head of curriculum review Kevin Donnelly says corporal punishment in schools 'was very effective'

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    Bring back the cane and teach respect for right and wrong, sitting in the naughty corner doesnt work.......

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    I look back on getting the cane at school as more of a badge of honour than as punishment. It's a boy thing. Perhaps more important than is given credit. I'm not into cruelty, but being able to take a hit when you know you have done wrong builds character if done correctly. Unfortunately it's too open to abuse. Not applicable to girls though. That's probably sexist to say, but girls are affected differently.

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    The cane should be part of the disciplinary system, if only for its deterrent value. Any one who disputes that, is part of the problem, IMO. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    One of my best childhood mates was a cheeky lippy kid. He progressed from the secondary department of his local parish school to a Christian Brothers high school. He apparently back answered or cheeked one of the Brothers and found out why they wore those heavy leather belts around their robes. He was bent over the teacher's desk and flogged until he begged for mercy. Never opened his trap for the next three years, I believe.
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    Fair enough, so the consensus so far is that it's ok.

    Then should parents be allowed to do it? Should media abandon the continuous diatribe on a call for restriction on parents to smack their kids? I'm getting mixed signals from the media on discipline and what's 'tolerated'.

    Yes the old man gave us kids a smack, but some parents go overboard and perhaps should be reigned in. Where do you draw the line?
    Last edited by Greatsouthernland; 16th July 2014 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Changed to media diatribe on banning smacking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland View Post
    Fair enough, so the consensus so far is that it's ok.

    Then should parents be allowed to do it? Should we abandon this restriction on parents to smack their kids? I'm getting mixed signals from the media on discipline and what's 'tolerated'.

    Yes the old man gave us kids a smack, but some parents go overboard and perhaps should be reigned in. Where do you draw the line?

    There is discipline, then there is cruelty. As with corporal punishment at school, at home discipline should come in many forms, with kindness as the common theme. A simple kitchen wooden spoon, shown to the child, can work wonders, without any physical contact. But that must be backed up with love, and an explanation of why the spoon came out. Same with schools, the cane is the last resort, and the strap. The last thing you want to do is take the spirit out of the child. But it should be there, as a warning. Just my opinion, Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I only got the cane once at Primary School (Qld 1950's)but it became a regular thing at High School, my Principal also the Maths"A" teacher took a dislike to myself and a couple of other boys because we did not try out for RL football,we played tennis but it being a new school lacked a tennis court,when I attended my high school's 50th annirversary celebrations we were informed that it was his ongoing little "Quirk"to dish out the cane to all and sundry.

    My getting the cane came to an ubrupt halt after he started bringing the cane back up under the upturned hand to hit the knuckles my father saw red,next day he took time off work and took me to school, requested an interview with the principal, and informed him (this I will never forget)if he hit his son on the back of the hand again "He would push said cane up his nose and pull it out via his ear!" I was never hit on the back of either of my hands again.

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    Most of my mates would have pleaded for the cane over lunchtime detention or picking up rubbish. Over and done with in seconds, then continue on your day.

    Interesting how if we hit one another it's assault, hit you're employee and you're sued, if I hit my wife I'm a ****.

    To put it another way - would you accept corporal punishment at adult age for your **** ups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland View Post
    Fair enough, so the consensus so far is that it's ok.

    Then should parents be allowed to do it? Should we abandon this restriction on parents to smack their kids? I'm getting mixed signals from the media on discipline and what's 'tolerated'.

    Yes the old man gave us kids a smack, but some parents go overboard and perhaps should be reigned in. Where do you draw the line?
    There's no restrictions or laws preventing parents smacking their children. There are however laws against physically abusing them - 2 very different things, and a concept that a lot of teachers can't get their heads around either.

    No issues with corporal punishment. Nothing schools are currently doing seems to work or get the kids to respect one another.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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