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    Reasonable Person
    A phrase frequently used in tort and Criminal Law to denote a hypothetical person in society who exercises average care, skill, and judgment in conduct and who serves as a comparative standard for determining liability.

    The decision whether an accused is guilty of a given offense might involve the application of an objective test in which the conduct of the accused is compared to that of a reasonable person under similar circumstances. In most cases, persons with greater than average skills, or with special duties to society, are held to a higher standard of care. For example, a physician who aids a person in distress is held to a higher standard of care than is an ordinary person.
    The test of a reasonable man is easily found, above is one definition.
    I was taught this during my training as a Worksafe Inspector many year ago.
    The reasonable man test is one of the basic components for law.

    Having said the above we could not use it a defence because it could be said we have more knowledge about 5 post bull bars than a reasonable man - think 22 year old male in rural environment that has a receipt and certificate of compliance for his 5 post bull bar.
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    I was a passenger in a 1961 Chrysler Royal Sedan that was hit/jumped into, by a 6 foot Roo while we were travelling at 60mph (97Kph) it did not quite clear the bonnet mascot (standard equipment) ripped the roo open and the lot, still kicking came through the windscreen,both driver and front seat passenger were injured,the Royal interior shreaded,and the driver's father furious,Insurance wrote it off as the stench was unbearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHo View Post
    I was a passenger in a 1961 Chrysler Royal Sedan that was hit/jumped into, by a 6 foot Roo while we were travelling at 60mph (97Kph) it did not quite clear the bonnet mascot (standard equipment) ripped the roo open and the lot, still kicking came through the windscreen,both driver and front seat passenger were injured,the Royal interior shreaded,and the driver's father furious,Insurance wrote it off as the stench was unbearable.
    A few months ago, near here, a young girl received a bravery award for running along the road to the top of a hill about half a mile away to get mobile coverage and call for help after a roo came through the windscreen and seriously injured her mother who was driving. Not reported on whether the vehicle had a bullbar, let alone what type.

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    Oh but lets protect the innocent pedestrian from the big mean car with the bigger, meaner bullbar, forget the poor bastard behind the wheel getting **** kicked out of him by the 'roo thats just been launched over the bonnet by the pedestrian friendly 'roo bar....

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    Forgot to add: In both situations, the car hits something that doesnt want to get hit, but we're still protecting the animal that should know better....

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    If they end up enforcing the no 5 post bars etc etc and my car gets damaged I will be sending the repair bill to the state government I won't be removing my bar they can kiss me where the sun don't shine...I've been threw 2 arb bars by hitting animals and on both occasions it has damaged my previous utes I recently just purchased a new ute and kitted it out with a 5 poster and scrub bars and it's already payed for itself numerous times as when I'm out on roads in western nsw at all times of night I ain't stoping for pests it's as simple as that and if a human decides to be stupid enough to cross in front of me while I am abiding by the rules I wouldn't loose sleep at night to be honest its simple as don't get hit by a car full stop who cares what bar ya got...

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    If they end up enforcing the no 5 post bars etc etc and my car gets damaged I will be sending the repair bill to the state government ...
    As Tuff bullbars correctly state there is nothing in the standards/legislation which make 5 post bars illegal.

    Link to the rules is here:
    [ame]http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/bull-bar-tolerances.pdf[/ame]
    roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/bull-bar-tolerances.pdf

    What is illegal is:
    If the bar does not have rounded/chamfered front faces of the posts
    If the bar comes forward of the bumper by more than 100 mm
    If the bar is >50 mm higher then the leading edge of the bonnet
    If the bar has >100 mm step between the centre posts and the outer posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    If they end up enforcing the no 5 post bars etc etc and my car gets damaged I will be sending the repair bill to the state government I won't be removing my bar they can kiss me where the sun don't shine...I've been threw 2 arb bars by hitting animals and on both occasions it has damaged my previous utes I recently just purchased a new ute and kitted it out with a 5 poster and scrub bars and it's already payed for itself numerous times as when I'm out on roads in western nsw at all times of night I ain't stoping for pests it's as simple as that and if a human decides to be stupid enough to cross in front of me while I am abiding by the rules I wouldn't loose sleep at night to be honest its simple as don't get hit by a car full stop who cares what bar ya got...
    Good luck with all that when they take your house to cover the compo and crush your car to get it off the road. You can't fight it.
    Drive more slowly seems a good bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by London Boy View Post
    Good luck with all that when they take your house to cover the compo and crush your car to get it off the road. You can't fight it.
    Drive more slowly seems a good bet.
    "They" being who?? There is no legal basis in NSW for anyone to crush a car for not complying with ADRs.
    The drive more slowly comment shows a lack of experience in driving in rural Australia
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