Thread: Bull bar blitz: rural drivers fined

This could really be jsut the tip of the iceberg. Whilst I dont personally like the 4 and 5 poster style, I am told that the ADR site now has a big red cross through them for trucks.

The really interesting area may well become what constitutes "make the car wider".

Some believe that the widest part is the guard, some the flare on the guard and some the door line. The would be plenty of bars in trouble if it is the door line or even the guard.

From what I am hearing from within the industry what constitutes "sharp" is also coming under the microscope.

What I also find interesting is if the law has been in since 2003 in NSW, why has it suddenly become an issue. Why have they waited 11 years to tackle it and it would seem only in certain regions.

Could just be that people are sick of seeing complete ******* driving around in rubbish like this ...................



And the blitz reported was in Tamworth .............. now why doesn't that surprise me .............. yeeeee hawwwww.

Personally, I don't have any problem at all with them throwing anything with this type of rubbish bolted to it off the road. This is just the sort of thing that gives the likes of Scruby and his mates the ammunition they need to have all bullbars banned.

They are everywhere on the Darling Downs as well mainly on Toyotas...another surprise

It also says the bar must slope back toward the car......don't think an ARB Defy bar does - mine is vertical.

(looking again - the vertical braces do - I guess that is all that is needed to comply)

Originally Posted by Scallops

It also says the bar must slope back toward the car......don't think an ARB Defy bar does - mine is vertical.

(looking again - the vertical braces do - I guess that is all that is needed to comply)

Mine slope back if I'm parked up hill

Originally Posted by Scallops

It also says the bar must slope back toward the car......don't think an ARB Defy bar does - mine is vertical.

They need to lean slightly forward.

After the cyclone Tracy in Darwin 1974, I was tasked in taking my mates parents Nissan Patrol and trailer south to Adelaide, fully loaded including my Yammie 650 bike and his parents tool chests. We were heavy.

Just before Hayes Creek in the evening I came over a big hill and was accelerating down hill when the lights lit up a herd of cattle across the bottom. The bull bar saved our bacon, why, because it was real solid, lent forward slightly and to each side so enabled 2 of the 3 I hit to roll down and away from the vehicle. I hit them at 55mph, was a slow as i could get. The 1st spun off to the left, the 2nd to the right, the 3rd just seemed stuck in the middle of the bull bar, I could see that the bull bar was now bent back to touching the bonnet, so was leaning back, so the 3rd just hung on the front, eventually worked its way across and under the left wheels, well the fore legs did .. we stopped, the 1st 2 I hit moved on with the mob, the 3rd had broken legs . The Nissan, well we drove it to Alice Springs, tough car, only the bull bar showed any damage.

So I am convinced thru my experience a good bull bar is one that is built tough, works in moving what you strike off to the side.

Those ones in the pictures .. jeez ya must be joking .. be useful in a Mad Max movie though !!!

ADRs require that the bumper bar be the most forward part of a bullbar ie the loop etc must be behind the front extent of the bumper.

AFAIK , you can have an upright loop as long as it is behind the front of the bumper.
When we were importing VPR and other US bullbars , the main fail for ADR was that they often leaned forward.
I think the idea behind the ADR is that if you hit a pedestrian, they are rolled over the bonnet and not run over.
Same reason that rocket launchers etc are not allowed, and neither are towing eyes on teh front of the bumper.

Leaning forward bullbars will help with something short but do nothing if you hit a camel or horse or a high jumping roo.

Regards Philip A

Originally Posted by Rosco8

They need to lean slightly forward.

After the cyclone Tracy in Darwin 1974, I was tasked in taking my mates parents Nissan Patrol and trailer south to Adelaide, fully loaded including my Yammie 650 bike and his parents tool chests. We were heavy.

Just before Hayes Creek in the evening I came over a big hill and was accelerating down hill when the lights lit up a herd of cattle across the bottom. The bull bar saved our bacon, why, because it was real solid, lent forward slightly and to each side so enabled 2 of the 3 I hit to roll down and away from the vehicle. I hit them at 55mph, was a slow as i could get. The 1st spun off to the left, the 2nd to the right, the 3rd just seemed stuck in the middle of the bull bar, I could see that the bull bar was now bent back to touching the bonnet, so was leaning back, so the 3rd just hung on the front, eventually worked its way across and under the left wheels, well the fore legs did .. we stopped, the 1st 2 I hit moved on with the mob, the 3rd had broken legs . The Nissan, well we drove it to Alice Springs, tough car, only the bull bar showed any damage.

So I am convinced thru my experience a good bull bar is one that is built tough, works in moving what you strike off to the side.

Those ones in the pictures .. jeez ya must be joking .. be useful in a Mad Max movie though !!!

That is the way the older bull bars were designed to do, if you hit a pedestrian you stood a good cahnce of running them over after you hit them. They now want vehicles / bullbars designed not to knock them over onto the ground but to fall onto the bonnet minimising pedestrian injuries. It is no longer about protecting the vehicle but protecting pedestrians.