Thread: any news on a 2005 Defender??

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by DiscoTDI@
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Ok, you are scaring me now RPM, stop it. I think you need to whack yourself, you seem to be skipping. 8O Matt

here we go, pots and kettles again [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Yeah, but i do it one after the other, and accidentally. RPM kept replying with the same post after i replied?

Rack of disco you pot. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Matt[/b][/quote]

"rack of disco"? Anything like a rack of lamb?

And who is RPM? Is he RMP's brother?

Ron

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-rmp
The Defender doesn't need a face lift. It needs a more powerful engine, an auto option, improved interior, safety. I see no need to "modernise" the look. If they did that they would improve sales no end.

There's not much wrong with it.

Had a Jeeper looking at the Defender today, wants more space!

You are right RPM, to a certain extent. Whilst we love the look of the defender because we can appreciate the heritage behind it, there are many possible buyers who may respond to a more modern look. Now dont get me wrong, i dont want the defender to change to much, but a few modern styling cues and as you said a better thought out and more comfortable interior may increase sales immensely, oh and increase the range aswell. There will always be room in the ozzie 4wd market for a no frils 4wd because whilst vehicles are changing the country we are driving on still remains harse and demanding on equipment. I simply feel that a slight change in shape may draw the attention such a great vehicle needs, we need a vehicle which give people like 4wd monthly, ovelander and 4x4 Australia, nothing to gripe about. Matt[/b][/quote]

All good points, better seats, bigger power plant, less computer doing the thinking and more driver doing the thinking (ie no ex freeloader traction control, no gas bag suspension,) are all needed on the next Defender, a bit of a face lift could be a good idea also. The thing is that if what ever they come up with is not instantly recognisable at 100m as a Defender then it's not going to be a Defender.... :wink:

Originally posted by p38arover+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(p38arover)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-DiscoTDI@
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Ok, you are scaring me now RPM, stop it. I think you need to whack yourself, you seem to be skipping. 8O Matt

here we go, pots and kettles again [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Yeah, but i do it one after the other, and accidentally. RPM kept replying with the same post after i replied?

Rack of disco you pot. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Matt[/b][/quote]

"rack of disco"? Anything like a rack of lamb?

And who is RPM? Is he RMP's brother?

Ron[/b][/quote]

RPM is related to Aec.

Originally posted by medic455+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(medic455)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Ace@
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The Defender doesn't need a face lift. It needs a more powerful engine, an auto option, improved interior, safety. I see no need to "modernise" the look. If they did that they would improve sales no end.

There's not much wrong with it.

Had a Jeeper looking at the Defender today, wants more space!

You are right RPM, to a certain extent. Whilst we love the look of the defender because we can appreciate the heritage behind it, there are many possible buyers who may respond to a more modern look. Now dont get me wrong, i dont want the defender to change to much, but a few modern styling cues and as you said a better thought out and more comfortable interior may increase sales immensely, oh and increase the range aswell. There will always be room in the ozzie 4wd market for a no frils 4wd because whilst vehicles are changing the country we are driving on still remains harse and demanding on equipment. I simply feel that a slight change in shape may draw the attention such a great vehicle needs, we need a vehicle which give people like 4wd monthly, ovelander and 4x4 Australia, nothing to gripe about. Matt

All good points, better seats, bigger power plant, less computer doing the thinking and more driver doing the thinking (ie no ex freeloader traction control, no gas bag suspension,) are all needed on the next Defender, a bit of a face lift could be a good idea also. The thing is that if what ever they come up with is not instantly recognisable at 100m as a Defender then it's not going to be a Defender.... :wink:[/b][/quote]

Spot on medic- Stick with the KISS principle- Keep It Simple Stupid.

Sorry RMP, dislexeea is giving me greef. Trust ron to be the one to point it out. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] matt

Originally posted by medic455
I have said it before, but I will say it again. Unless the final design for the "New Defender" shows strong links to it's series/defender heritage.....IT WONT BE A DEFENDER......... :roll: :wink:

You've said it again, and you'll say it before.

Originally posted by VladTepes+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(VladTepes)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-medic455
I have said it before, but I will say it again. Unless the final design for the "New Defender" shows strong links to it's series/defender heritage.....IT WONT BE A DEFENDER......... :roll: :wink:

You've said it again, and you'll say it before.[/b][/quote]

And he'll say it once more.


Hey that rhymes. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Matt

Originally posted by p38arover+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(p38arover)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-DiscoTDI@
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Ok, you are scaring me now RPM, stop it. I think you need to whack yourself, you seem to be skipping. 8O Matt

here we go, pots and kettles again [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Yeah, but i do it one after the other, and accidentally. RPM kept replying with the same post after i replied?

Rack of disco you pot. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Matt[/b][/quote]

"rack of disco"? Anything like a rack of lamb?

And who is RPM? Is he RMP's brother?

Ron[/b][/quote]

Its a lost cause Ron :wink: