Thread: Scottish Vote: What happens to the Union Flag if?

Originally Posted by rangietragic

If the scots get independence they will still want all the benefits of the union such as the pound ect.Oh and about our flag,LEAVE THE BLOODY THING ALONEIt actually says where we come from and who built our country.
Wait for it,here they come

NO IT DOESN'T

It only shows part of where we come from, no Irish, Welsh, Italian, Greek, USA, Pacific Is, China, Malta, Vietnam, Indiginous, and so on and so on, we already have five flags with the Union Jack in the corner, 6 counting the national flag, one less won't hurt surely.

Back to Scotland

Good on them if they vote yes, I know my Scottish side of the family will vote yes, my Mother was always talking about independence from England.

The Scots are pretty good at most things, England would have been lost if not for the engineering skills of the Scots.

I'm pretty sure they will be fine

Baz.

I think your forgetting the Australia ACT 1986 substantially rewrites much of that

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2004C00704

Cuts all ties with Westminster and the UK govt

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

This is what the preamble says:


reamble)

An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia. [9th July 1900]

(The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom at Westminster)
Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:


Seems pretty clear the Commonwealth of Australia exists as 'an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom at Westminster' and 'under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.'
If the Queen becomes separately the Queen of Britain and Ireland, and the Queen of Scotland, and the Queen of Australia, but is no longer the Queen of the United Kingdom (because the kingdom is no longer united), what happens?
At first I thought this was just a joke, but the more I read the less crazy it sounds.

QEII or her successors will remain the Crown of whatever it be: England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Even if Her Majesty (or Her successors) may have no constitutional role, just like the King of Greece, Italy and numerous other European Royals, Her Majesty will still retain the title. The arms of government however may change from being of "the Crown" to something like "the Government of England, Wales and Northern Ireland". Just like they do in the US of A.

The fact that the title stated in the Australian Constitution changes, it doesn't invalidate any Laws in Australia because those powers are vested in the Governor General of Australia and not in QEII Herself.

The border. Some excellent photos, Bob


BBC News - Scottish referendum: The view from the border

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

I think your forgetting the Australia ACT 1986 substantially rewrites much of that

Australia Act 1986

Cuts all ties with Westminster and the UK govt

That's a very interesting link, but after a quick glance I don't see anything immediately obvious which answers the question of what happens constitutionally if the UK ceases to exist.


I assume we'd just trot along anyway, business as usual, since the monarchy has no relevance to daily life in this country and most people wouldn't notice any difference. And I guess the GG could just write his reports and send them to the Queen of Australia rather than to the Queen of the United Kingdom.

As there are no longer legal ties I would think we just carry os before and forget about the UK park as irrelevant

English politicians unite in their desperate attempts to bribe the Scots into rejecting independence. All three politicians have a lot to lose if the Scots break away.


BBC News - Scottish independence: Cameron, Miliband and Clegg sign No vote pledge

So, as the Scots vote, I thought this was a good summary of what's been happening.
An independent Scotland?