Scottish Vote: What happens to the Union Flag if?

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

Interesting article Dave, I just wonder what will be the situation in Canada between east and west.

What it is happen the the world?
Look the Flemish in Belgium, the Catalans in Spain, etc.

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So the Flemish would call their new country Flem? I'd like to see that. :D

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Originally Posted by incisor

One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why? | Jim Gaines


interesting read...

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Interesting article but even more interesting to read some of the comments, many echo comments from in here about government.

After reading some of them a quote from Churchill came to find. ... The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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Originally Posted by TerryO

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... The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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Or as some anonymous person said, "The problem with democracy is they count heads, not brain cells."

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Originally Posted by TerryO

Interesting article but even more interesting to read some of the comments, many echo comments from in here about government.

After reading some of them a quote from Churchill came to find. ... The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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That was a very arrogant quote, I prefer the one for José G. Artigas ( the father of Uruguayan nationhood) who said to the people:

"My authority emanates from you and she stops before your sovereign presence."

Unfortunately just because the quote is some what arrogant doesn't actually prove that it is incorrect.

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Originally Posted by TerryO

Unfortunately just because the quote is some what arrogant doesn't actually prove that it is incorrect.

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So you think that those "that think that are smarter than others" have the right to make the decisions on their behalf ?
In my book it is incorrect :)

Chucaro yes I do when it comes to the government, right or wrong those who are elected to govern should be able to govern.
If they stuff it up then three years later you can vote them out. This allowing a Senate to stop a recently elected government from introducing its policy whether they are Labor or Liberal is just plain wrong.

As for the quote, was the man who made it smarter than most? Well in my opinion yes Winston Churchill was smarter than most and time has shown that he was not only one of the greatest leaders and strategic thinkers but also one of the best judges of character the world has ever seen.

Here's another one of his quotes to contemplate. ... 'Any 20 year old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and any 40 year old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain.' .... ;)

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This allowing a Senate to stop a recently elected government from introducing its policy whether they are Labor or Liberal is just plain wrong.

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and most would agree,

if they actually did after the election, exactly what they said they were going to do in the run up to the election.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.
- - - Winston Churchill

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Originally Posted by incisor

and most would agree,

if they actually did after the election, exactly what they said they were going to do in the run up to the election.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.
- - - Winston Churchill

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It is so simple answer that i cannot understand why some people cannot see it !

I would like to add that if the electorate was prepared to give a government full control then it should have majority in the senate.
No the case here, no mandate.

Ghandi on meeting Churchill. Bob


What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea.

Mahatma Gandhi


Churchill was a consummate politician, arrogant , ruthless, self serving, but the right man for the times.