More Landys unreliable myths in 4WD Action

A defender is one of, if not the most capable vehicle straight out of the factory, you cannot go wrong with it if you actual want to use it as a 4wd. In regard to price, well there's absolutely no comparison. A new hilux is worth more than a new defender, and when talking about 4 wd capability, again no comparison! And in regard to productions, it's only the 90 that's being finished up. The 110 is still up in the air, and the 130 ( I believe is the best touring vehicle of all once setup) is still continuing for now.

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Originally Posted by Doc130

A defender is one of, if not the most capable vehicle straight out of the factory, you cannot go wrong with it if you actual want to use it as a 4wd. In regard to price, well there's absolutely no comparison. A new hilux is worth more than a new defender, and when talking about 4 wd capability, again no comparison! And in regard to productions, it's only the 90 that's being finished up. The 110 is still up in the air, and the 130 ( I believe is the best touring vehicle of all once setup) is still continuing for now.

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Ok.... good to hear..... I know very little about the Defenders, but sounds like I need to learn more :)

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Originally Posted by Robmacca

Ok.... good to hear..... I know very little about the Defenders, but sounds like I need to learn more :)

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I have a D2 as a play car and since January a 2006 Defender 110 as a tourer and absolutely love the truck ( it does drive like a truck) but I would not trade if for anything else.

Personally I still think as a tourer it needs some modifications but which car does not. In the Nissan & Toyota dominated 4wd club I'm in, my Landies usually pull the other brands out and do the recovery....

I don't mind them putting the landys down. We all know better. I laugh to myself at times when my mate has just bought a 80 series cruiser and has had to spend nearly 20 grand just to make it capable to do the same as what a landy would do straight out of the box. Let those on the dark side stay there I say, less competition for parts and keeps our costs down.

As for the magazine I have been increasingly annoyed with it as all the articles seem to be just regurgitating old articles over and over. If it was not for the DVDs I would not buy it anymore which is a real shame as have been buying it since the day of milo and Otis where on the cover.

The current Defender is a very competent vehicle,I have a friend that has a 2013 model, with the Ford 2.2 litre diesel motor and 6 speed transmission,very good air con and ABS he is very happy with it,it also has a very good quality sound and ICE system, he took it to the 65th Landrover anniversary get together in Melrose SA last year (to run it in :))it's all standard and it was fitted with "Continental Cross Contact" tyres off the floor and side steps, only mods he has done is an ARB front bar,ARB full roof rack ARB,and Terrafirma rear corner protectors (the old style grab handles have been dropped) to say that he is a happy puppy is an understatement :)


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Originally Posted by UncleHo

The current Defender is a very competent vehicle,I have a friend that has a 2013 model, with the Ford 2.2 litre diesel motor and 6 speed transmission,very good air con and ABS he is very happy with it,it also has a very good quality sound and ICE system, he took it to the 65th Landrover anniversary get together in Melrose SA last year (to run it in :))it's all standard and it was fitted with "Continental Cross Contact" tyres off the floor and side steps, only mods he has done is an ARB front bar,ARB full roof rack ARB,and Terrafirma rear corner protectors (the old style grab handles have been dropped) to say that he is a happy puppy is an understatement :)


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The old fella today had a good looking Goodyear Wrangler MT 235/85/16 on his Defender.... nice looking tyre. Even thought about asking him if he would consider swapping tyres :)

Since owning my defender 130 I have had great pleasure converting two of my good mates that have driven toyotas for over 15 years. One now drives a 130 and one drives a 110 7 seater which pulls a camper. The selling point for one of my mates and his wife was ngkala rocks bypass on Fraser Island bout one year ago..... Mate had a fully worked Toyota prado with every mod on it, towing his camper trailer, I knew it would be interesting to see if he could pull it over ngkala because we were planning on camping at the sandy cape( tip of Fraser)and had great fun stirring him up all the way up the island. As we got to ngkala the " land cruiser club" were finally getting themselves out of the mess that they told us they had been in for 4 hours and we're stressing to us that we wouldn't make it because the sand was so soft ( December) and we were crazy to attempt it because it will be dark in hour or so.... "Fair enough " I said to the guys that looked exhausted, but in my head I was quietly confident(this is where a defender comes into its own). Dropped the tyre pressures to 15 psi and the guys were saying your kidding yourself as obviously they realised I was going to have a go... The fully loaded 130 done it with ease, making these guys look like jokers. Knowing my truck, and realising how easy it drove it, I told my mate in his prado with the camper trailer (1400kg) to have a go and I'll come back if you need. He got about half way which was about the same as where the cruiser club guys got to, however every cruiser that tried snatching was getting bogged( so 5 cruisers were bogged in this spot where now my mates bogged). So I came back but being a one way track I was unable to turn around. So had not much choice to REVERSE snatch a prado and trailer and drag them over in REVERSE!! We made it to camp all good before dark!! Moral of the story is now this same mate now owns a defender 110 and we recently went back to fraser for the same test(ngkala) and what do you know, the 110 pulled the camper over with ease. People with no idea can poke fun at landy's all the time, buts it's times like this I just wish there were more Toyota owners around to see it.

Can I ask what year Defenders you and your mates end up getting?

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Originally Posted by Doc130

Since owning my defender 130 I have had great pleasure converting two of my good mates that have driven toyotas for over 15 years. One now drives a 130 and one drives a 110 7 seater which pulls a camper. The selling point for one of my mates and his wife was ngkala rocks bypass on Fraser Island bout one year ago..... Mate had a fully worked Toyota prado with every mod on it, towing his camper trailer, I knew it would be interesting to see if he could pull it over ngkala because we were planning on camping at the sandy cape( tip of Fraser)and had great fun stirring him up all the way up the island. As we got to ngkala the " land cruiser club" were finally getting themselves out of the mess that they told us they had been in for 4 hours and we're stressing to us that we wouldn't make it because the sand was so soft ( December) and we were crazy to attempt it because it will be dark in hour or so.... "Fair enough " I said to the guys that looked exhausted, but in my head I was quietly confident(this is where a defender comes into its own). Dropped the tyre pressures to 15 psi and the guys were saying your kidding yourself as obviously they realised I was going to have a go... The fully loaded 130 done it with ease, making these guys look like jokers. Knowing my truck, and realising how easy it drove it, I told my mate in his prado with the camper trailer (1400kg) to have a go and I'll come back if you need. He got about half way which was about the same as where the cruiser club guys got to, however every cruiser that tried snatching was getting bogged( so 5 cruisers were bogged in this spot where now my mates bogged). So I came back but being a one way track I was unable to turn around. So had not much choice to REVERSE snatch a prado and trailer and drag them over in REVERSE!! We made it to camp all good before dark!! Moral of the story is now this same mate now owns a defender 110 and we recently went back to fraser for the same test(ngkala) and what do you know, the 110 pulled the camper over with ease. People with no idea can poke fun at landy's all the time, buts it's times like this I just wish there were more Toyota owners around to see it.

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I was reading one 4WD magazine a few months ago that was doing its best 4WD of the year section and i think it was 200 series first Prado second and D4 third and one of the negatives they put was D4 reliability issues of old, it never let them down during the whole test and was a great car but they still marked it down for reliability just shook my head idiots. I cant remember why the rest of it or what magazine it was but was thinking for goodness sake if it didn't let you down on the test then how can you mark it down for perceived reliability ahwell i guess we all have the last laugh the ones who own them and love driving them hahaha

My defenders 2012, mates 130 2011, and other mates 110 2014. All pumas!