Thread: To go or not to go - that is the question.

IMO, you go. You've booked the time, you're due an adventure so take the chance. Worst case scenario it goes bang again and you are up for a tow back.. which the repair shop should be liable for. As you have the time off, having a breakdown would just b part of the adventure.. no rush to be back.. Timing belts don't shred for no reason tho.. There must be something touching it, or a bolt in a wrong hole etc etc etc. if they had a spark of sense at the repair shop, they'd run it without the cover and watch it for an hour or two... Tdi's had an issue with front cover flex, causing belts to run out of line and shred, but they should have all had the upgrade years ago. A lot of timing belts now are directional too... Lots of 'ifs', 'buts', 'when's' and 'maybee's' I know, but without being there, and having a good look at the timing parts I can't see the 'story' that took place. There's always marks left when things like that happen, its just finding them. Get it home, give it a good two hour thrash, then go! Good luck!!

Have the thrust washers been checked? Is it an update crank shaft pulley?

If that timing belt was in a 300TDI then I would get the con-rods checked because if it let go at speed then the push rods would have stopped while the pistons were still moving,I would push for a replacement short motor

The manager said they fitted an upgrade timing belt kit. The receipt says:

'Supply and fit timing belt and front oil seals as required.'
'1 x exchange timing cover.'

The manager says they couldn't find anything wrong which would have caused the timing belt to fail.

I assume the manager is trying to recover some of his warranty costs by hitting up the belt supplier by saying its belt must have been faulty.

So, was the belt faulty or the wrong belt? Was it fitted incorrectly? Was it too tight. Did they forget to fit the retainer? Seems unlikely, but who would know.

Its odd that the belt ran fine for two weeks and then failed on a two hour drive coming back from Lismore.

Frankly, I am uneasy, but Im trying to stay cool, calm and logical. Not easy. The manager is getting quite defensive, but I have not chucked a wobbly ' yet.

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Was this work done by a Landrover specialist workshop or just a local garage with 4x4 knowledge ? there is a difference,I used to do a lot of correction work on local Series vehicles after the local mechanics had "worked" on them

LWB rear brake shoes fitted incorrectly,result poor braking,"that's the best you will get with a landrover!" LWB Series rear shoes are "handed" left and right, front and rear shoe,all in the back drums

cheers

Disclaimer: I have no association with Bearmach other than buying some parts over the years.

I've been looking into timing belt changes as I'm intending to do that myself when it is next due. One thing I did find in the various forums is that some believe the Bearmach timing gear for the crank is a better gear than others as it has a forged shoulder where as the others have a tack-welded shoulder (supposedly the OEM is tack welded). The suggestion was that the tack welded shoulders can tear the belts if the belts are slightly out whereas the Bearmach ones don't. The problem is still the walking belt to allow it to happen in the first place.

I've had walking timing belts in the past and tack welded shoulders so next time the belt is done I'll try the Bearmach kit.

As for heading off on the trip, I'd be cautious about it but at the end of the day everyone would be looking forward to it so I'd head off. I'd pack some gear to change a timing belt, study where the Land Rover dealers are on route and upgrade any roadside assistance to the top cover.

Originally Posted by UncleHo

If that timing belt was in a 300TDI then I would get the con-rods checked because if it let go at speed then the push rods would have stopped while the pistons were still moving,I would push for a replacement short motor

That doesn't happen,the rockers have a weak point cast into them and the push rods are designed so they bend,the motor would be fine. Pat

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The manager said they fitted an upgrade timing belt kit. The receipt says:

'Supply and fit timing belt and front oil seals as required.'
'1 x exchange timing cover.'

The manager says they couldn't find anything wrong which would have caused the timing belt to fail.

I assume the manager is trying to recover some of his warranty costs by hitting up the belt supplier by saying its belt must have been faulty.

So, was the belt faulty or the wrong belt? Was it fitted incorrectly? Was it too tight. Did they forget to fit the retainer? Seems unlikely, but who would know.

Its odd that the belt ran fine for two weeks and then failed on a two hour drive coming back from Lismore.

Frankly, I am uneasy, but Im trying to stay cool, calm and logical. Not easy. The manager is getting quite defensive, but I have not chucked a wobbly ' yet.

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The tensioner should be replaced with every belt,that would be the problem IMHO. Pat