Thread: They'd like to kill us

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Islamic State: Militant group calls on supporters to kill Australians 'in any possible way' Quote: The Islamic State (IS) insurgency has called on supporters to kill soldiers and civilians in Australia, the US and Europe, in a speech by its spokesman. And some people like to treat them in an humane way

This seems to be the views of an extreme minority within their faith. They're equally happy to treat their fellow Muslims the same way if it suits them. I agree they shouldn't be given air time.

talking to them for 2000 years doesn't appear to have worked either

Exactly. We shouldn't be lining up to help either. The other Muslim countries know how to handle the situation in a Muslim way. Sticking our noses in trying to talk sense to the mentally ill just paints targets on us, costs a lot of money and kills a lot of our soldiers for no result. The only morally troubling point is we have an obligation from stuffing the place by invading in the first place. Ask the Iraqis if they would have preferred Saddam or the last ten years without him.
It is very plain to see that democracy isn't for a lot of the Middle East. That isn't an insult, just a fact. We shouldn't be forcing the issue and the barbaric acts that happen are their way and should be respected. Having outsider stranger know it alls coming in telling you what is right and what is wrong would get up anyone's nose, especially if they have their hand in your pocket.

PS Maybe we could distract their attention by telling them there is a budget emergency or something similar? We haven't tried it yet and it does work.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

well Ron, Morrison's plan is to allow another 4,000 to migrate here. Thats after he sends the one he doesn't like back , i.e. the asylum seekers who are already here.

I would like to know who establishes the selection criteria.

Actually his plan is to allow real refugees in, not self appointed ones...but of course it would still be the current Govt's fault.

Originally Posted by vnx205

Imagine the outcry if there was an incident and the Australian public learned that the government had some sort of prior warning and kept it quiet.

In Australia, we expect to be told what is going on.

However, I agree there is a problem. Terrorists want to disrupt our lives. Having us living in a state of fear certainly helps do that.

Read some of the threads on this site about the feeling and thoughts of people when ASIO and the associated forces did act, some even think it was done to take the spotlight off the budget


Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't. Personally I don't think we give them the pleasure of introducing fear into our everyday life by reading and hearing about it everytime you turn on the radio/TV or open a newspaper.


Cheers Ean

Originally Posted by mikehzz

the barbaric acts that happen are their way and should be respected..

You lost the civilized world about here. If you respect what they do.....best I don't go on .

That's the problem, you are trying to tell them right from wrong and they don't agree with you. Therefore the only resolution is to nuke the place. Having fundamental disagreement for 2000 years hasn't worked, nobody is blinking.

so respecting their right to behead innocent people will fix it? I actually disagree more with you for suggesting that we should respect those acts.


They don't agree with our way of thinking so we should step out of the way. At what point do we (western world) react. Just before of after they nuke the place like they did in Lebanon.

from 1899

[ Forenote: Sir Winston Churchill has been recognized as one of the greatest men of the late nineteenth and of the twentieth century. He was an extraordinary war leader to whom the Western World must be forever in debt. He was a prophet in his own time as this quotation, written well over 100 years ago, demonstrates.]



"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the
Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and
refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan
law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as
a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the
faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion
paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde
force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant
and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled,
the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”