They'd like to kill us

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Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland

Hi Nugget,

I understand your point. However the USA is all about the USA first second and third, I don't think they are in any part of the world for someone else's gain, unless it is SECOND to their own.

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Nah, USA can stay at home and do not give a dam if ISIS and Co invade South Arabia and other suppliers of fuel to USA :p

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Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland

Hi Nugget,

I understand your point. However the USA is all about the USA first second and third, I don't think they are in any part of the world for someone else's gain, unless it is SECOND to their own.

Just my observation as they seem to act on their own even when consulting the UN results in a vote against the action. Hence the term "coalition of the willing" - willing to do what the USA wants :D . But as I've said before, I'm glad it's them and not the Japanese :o but I wish they would stop stirring up the Chinese and including us in their regional 'posturing'.

But as said, I understand your point :D and it's a fair comment.;)

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Fair call but the same would apply to any country. You reckon China or Russia do things for other peoples benefit and not their own. I don't see the Arab countries lining up fight extremists or to do the heavy lifting fighting Ebola in Africa ( I am not sure what the US's gain is but apparently they wouldn't be there if there wasn't one)... it is not JUST the US. I don't agree with everything the do/have done but at least they do something.


A very minor example but, some years ago I was dealing in Zimbabwe who received "China Aid $". It applied as long as it was spent on the appropriate goods....made in China. Not sure if traditionally we put that sort of caveat on our Aid $'s

Iran Didn’t Create ISIS; We Did
Instead of shifting blame for ISIS’s rise, the West and its allies should look in the mirror.

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The U.S., Western Europe, and their regional allies in fact bear most of the responsibility for the rise of extremist groups like ISIS. The U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, which Britain notably supported, was a strategic disaster. Contrary to speculation at the time, Saddam Hussein’s secular Ba’athist regime prevented Al Qaeda from operating out of Iraq. Iraq had also been supported by the West before the 1991 Gulf War as a counterbalance against the revolutionary Islamic Republic during the Iran-Iraq War. The U.S.-led invasion changed all of that. End of Quote

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My thoughts only when considering what could be done with Australian 'bred' terrorist jihad-is is to apply a similar and constant level of force of the same type they are applying.

Harsh indeed but my thought bubble view is that the families of the jihad-is should be rounded up and via all available media, get the message out that unless the home grown jihad-is cease, desist, renounce violence and return home to face prosecution, their family and loved ones will be 'disappeared', one by one until their entire lineage is removed.

Now I know that this will never happen, nor should it but we must, absolutely must fight fire with fire. The do nothing option is not an option. A more palatable course may be 're-education' through non violent means. Similar to wayward youth camps or 'interventions'.

That said, a previous poster suggested 'microwave' therapy. I'd like to explore this method also but not for the obvious reason. I liken it to the monkey analogy: Five Monkeys in a Cage. | Gikuyu Architecture. After the first 'microwave' therapy session the peoples of the middle east will police themselves in order to avoid being 'microwaved'. I believe there is precedent - Japan has been a model global citizen since 1945!

Disclaimer
Just my thoughts, my thoughts only.
Shared to stimulate discussion and debate.
Don't be hatin' on me!

Ralph

After my last post I thought about some non violent 'people power' methods we could use to re-enforce our unique Aussie culture and bolster our heritage.
Some more thoughts.
We could prefer restaurants where the food is not 'halal'.
Support shops whose signs are in English.

Non violent people power stuff, passive resistance much like Mr Ghandi!:D

Again, same disclaimer as above.
Don't be hatin' on me

Cheers
Ralph

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What's duke nukems tag line.

"kill em all, let god sort em out"

Works for me.

Ooh! Blknight, Love it :D

Apologies if this has been posted before.
I'm normally fairly left, however I can accept that there's an issue with the 'moderate majority' not condemning the extremist minority.
A video that nicely demonstrates this...

Muslim Student Challenges Jewish Professor, He Shuts Her Up On The Spot

If you get the chance to see and hear a "moderate" Imam it is amazing how quiet they speak and smile while pushing for all Jews to be wiped from the face of the earth and infidels(us) to be forced to convert or be killed. if you only listen to their tone you will miss just how barbaric their message is.:(
Nothing at all like a hell and brim fire evangelical preacher:D

if the girl in the video had not been put on the spot most people would call her moderate and reasonable

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Apologies if this has been posted before.
I'm normally fairly left, however I can accept that there's an issue with the 'moderate majority' not condemning the extremist minority.
A video that nicely demonstrates this...

Muslim Student Challenges Jewish Professor, He Shuts Her Up On The Spot

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Wow, that was interesting! I wonder if she was arrested after that was seen by the feds - as it appears this was in America :o but then I'm confused about what law applies as she said she would be putting herself in trouble with the law if she admitted her support for terrorists.


No offence to any non political know it all uni students :D carry on :cool: