Thread: The Strain On Defence Force Families.

I think it is time, Brian, for those who think I am a Colonel blimp, to identify them selves. So I can talk to all your friends. In a nice polite way , of course. But you & your friends will have to bring facts with you. I say to the moderators, I have blotted the copy book, with some outbursts of anger, and been punished,rightly. I take the time now to apologise to those I have offended. But I will not be belittled, by some jealous public servant, for doing my duty for 21 years. And belittled for no reason. I know I should move on, and ignore the fools, but, I am part of a group of people who have served this country, and on behalf of them, I say, you have no right . Simple. Bob

Mods, please.

This is out of control.

I'm still a serving member and all this reminds me of is, "you thought your time was tough, well let me tell you of the time I had" bloody scenario.

Pull ya bloody heads in fellas.
It won't affect you.
Stop the ****ing contest.
Get on with it. Isn't that what soldiering is.

Adapt, improvise, overcome.
And as always.

FOLLOW THE SAPPER!

Will

Nah, waste of breath to buy in

Originally Posted by Will Wallace

Mods, please.

This is out of control.

I'm still a serving member and all this reminds me of is, "you thought your time was tough, well let me tell you of the time I had" bloody scenario.

Pull ya bloody heads in fellas.
It won't affect you.
Stop the ****ing contest.
Get on with it. Isn't that what soldiering is.

Adapt, improvise, overcome.
And as always.

FOLLOW THE SAPPER!

Will

Will, I understand what you are saying. But there comes a time when you have to stand up & be counted. I will not tolerate any more, personal attacks against my military service. You can make light of it if you will, but I am sick of turning the other cheek. This is not a contest, not by me, anyhow. I did not serve for 21 years to have my service belittled in such a manner. However, I understand everyone has a point of view. In this case, I will agree to disagree. But there are some views I can not respect. Bob

Guys this really isn't the place, strain on defence force families is the topic here, you can surely put it aside , maybe even start another thread, to keep this important aspect of life connected to a member of the forces discussion on track, without any agro. Thanks

Jc

And we are still no wiser as to what the actual current entitlements of ADF people are and as such still unable to make any informed comparison.


What I do know is that when there is a reluctance to share such info, it is in most cases because it doesn't support the claim being made.


Length of service, family history, belittling reservists and how many guns were fired is all very interesting but totally irrelevant in explaining why the 1.5% is inadequate.


Having said that, maybe the renumeration system should be overhauled with the pay rate directly relative to number of bullets fired in anger !

Originally Posted by justinc

Guys this really isn't the place, strain on defence force families is the topic here, you can surely put it aside , maybe even start another thread, to keep this important aspect of life connected to a member of the forces discussion on track, without any agro. Thanks

Jc

Certainly. Point taken, Bob

Originally Posted by nugge t

but totally irrelevant in explaining why the 1.5% is inadequate.
!

It seems universal now, from the head of BHP, down to the Gardener, that consideration as to whether the starting point is adequate or fair is not the issue, rather it is how much more one can squeeze from the ''system''.

I hesitate to comment on the ADF as a non serving member, but to me, the key issues are lack of long term Career planning that take in account family needs as far as possible, and totally inadequate post service care, be it physical and psychological, that are causing Families pain.

Broadly speaking i don't know why all Commonwealth employees , P.M, ADF, APS are not on a single scale that recognizes their unique requirements, so if the P.M gets 5%, so does the newest recruit.