Thread: Fat Tax Yes Or No?

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Heredity has a big part to play in the ability to lose weight.

Only partly true.

There is scientific info stating that fat cells develop during childhood & the number & size of them then remains constant into adulthood. And even if you then lose weight you still have the same number of fat cells which is why many people lose weight only to put it back on again.

A lot of people who believe their body-mass index is hereditary were simply overfed as children by their overweight parents who probably just had a distorted idea of what constituted a normal meal portion. The parents were also likely to have been overfed by their parents and so on. Your cultural observation about Pacific islanders is correct although not due to genes, just due to cultural eating patterns.

Smaller portions and no snacks between meals for children is the only way to prevent them growing too many fat cells. And once they've got them, they can't get rid of them.

I was at a school camp last week and at 10pm one night four already overweight girls got on the phone and ordered not one, not two, not even five but TEN pizzas to share! Its no wonder they are already too fat to participate in sport and other strenuous activities. Bad choices, bad choices. Obviously their parents just let them do what they like.

part of the problem is that fatty food is cheap
and healthy food is expensive.

Originally Posted by Jeff

I don't think it will happen with the current treasurer .

I remember years ago going to the Blue Mountains and walking along an elevated walkway near Echo Point, it said it had been opened by Joe Hockey. I said to wifey, "At least you know it has been stress tested."

Jeff

No, he is overweight

Originally Posted by Eevo

part of the problem is that fatty food is cheap
and healthy food is expensive.

This myth has been exploded numerous times on various current affairs shows. As far as food court takeaway goes, 2x sushi rolls are usually cheaper than a Big Mac. Even a ham & salad sandwich at most greasy spoons is cheaper than a burger. Fresh fruit & veg plus deli meat & bread is way cheaper again but you have to build your meal yourself. The real issue is that fatty food is just more available in ready-made forms and it's loaded with sugar & salt so our brains are trained to crave it like crack when we are hungry.

Originally Posted by solmanic

This myth has been exploded numerous times on various current affairs shows. As far as food court takeaway goes, 2x sushi rolls are usually cheaper than a Big Mac. Even a ham & salad sandwich at most greasy spoons is cheaper than a burger. Fresh fruit & veg plus deli meat & bread is way cheaper again but you have to build your meal yourself. The real issue is that fatty food is just more available in ready-made forms and it's loaded with sugar & salt so our brains are trained to crave it like crack when we are hungry.

sushi has rice. rice is one of the biggest causes of type 2 diabetes.


at the places around my work, a sandwich costs more then a big mac.
less than a burger at a grill place though. also the sizing is very different.

bread, assuming white bread, not healthy for you.

Originally Posted by Eevo

sushi has rice. rice is one of the biggest causes of type 2 diabetes.

Hmmmm - no - is certainly an issue in working out what you eat once you have type two diabetes due to its carbohydrate content.

Diabetes is not caused by any one type (or mix of food) it is caused by getting fat, low activity and maybe a component of predisposition.

If you have diabetes than things change.

If rice caused diabetes then all peoples who eat it would have type 2 diabetes. Those that eat solely a eastern diet generally do not - it is when they switch to a western diet with its fat that issues arise.

Garry