Another case of Land Rover Prejudice

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Originally Posted by PAT303

The reason they do it is not that they hate certain vehicles but it's because they are scared of what they don't know.I've spent years in workshops and a CAT ''mechanic'' refuses to work on a Komatsu because they're crap,he's really saying he knows nothing about them and doesn't want to learn because thats the way ''mechanics'' are today.You learn by doing,but thats too much work for todays ''tradesman'',they seem to find time to send text messages though. Pat

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In my last business there were vehicles we would not touch, but we were not rude about it to the inquiring customer.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

The reason they do it is not that they hate certain vehicles but it's because they are scared of what they don't know.I've spent years in workshops and a CAT ''mechanic'' refuses to work on a Komatsu because they're crap,he's really saying he knows nothing about them and doesn't want to learn because thats the way ''mechanics'' are today.You learn by doing,but thats too much work for todays ''tradesman'',they seem to find time to send text messages though. Pat

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The fitters at the mine I work at seem to stick with what they know,the guys that did their time at Hastings or only worked with CAT gear won't touch anything with Sandvik written on it.

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Originally Posted by d2dave

In my last business there were vehicles we would not touch, but we were not rude about it to the inquiring customer.

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Exactly the same as where I work and its really only one make we won't touch anything else is fair game

One of the problems with apprentice training these days is that very few local mechanics take on apprentices so it is left to new car dealers and they (mostly) only train their apprentices on their marque of vehicle and its diagnostic equipment. The result is qualified mechanics who are reluctant to touch any other marque.

Perhaps we need a system where apprentices are educated by a training provider, are rotated through a sequence of automotive workshops large and small (and paid by that workshop). Then we would end up with qualified mechanics with a broad spectrum of experience able and willing to work on almost any brand. (Sounds like socialism doesn't it?) :eek:

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

One of the problems with apprentice training these days is that very few local mechanics take on apprentices so it is left to new car dealers and they (mostly) only train their apprentices on their marque of vehicle and its diagnostic equipment. The result is qualified mechanics who are reluctant to touch any other marque.

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And the other problem here is that all the cars are reasonable new, as the majority of car owners don't go back to stealers when cars are out of warranty, so the apprentice spends most of his time doing services, and learning the diagnostics.

I wonder how many of these have ever done a head gasket during their apprenticeship, let alone an engine rebuild.

Nah ... Give them a single cylinder air cooled "normally aspirated" engine, that won't go, and ask them to fix it.

I kid you not

Carburetor .... ??



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Originally Posted by d2dave

And the other problem here is that all the cars are reasonable new, as the majority of car owners don't go back to stealers when cars are out of warranty, so the apprentice spends most of his time doing services, and learning the diagnostics.

I wonder how many of these have ever done a head gasket during their apprenticeship, let alone an engine rebuild.

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Its why we have a generation of replacement parts fitters rather than mechanics.

An old mate had a British Motor cycle shop inMelbourne, ( he owned the bike in the Chiko Roll poster) :o anyhow someone pushes a Harley through the front door, sorry indont do tractors , :D:D:

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Originally Posted by d2dave

I wonder how many of these have ever done a head gasket during their apprenticeship, let alone an engine rebuild.

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None. Pat

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Originally Posted by Fluids

Nah ... Give them a single cylinder air cooled "normally aspirated" engine, that won't go, and ask them to fix it.

I kid you not

Carburetor .... ??



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Take a 300 Tdi into a dealer and pull the fuel solenoid wire off,a bet it takes them hours to find it,do that to someone on here and it's the first place they look. Pat