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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland View Post
    Don't forget that all rhetoric we receive in the 'west' is American propaganda, ONE side of the story, who has started more wars - USA or China?

    There's a reason place names exist i.e. the South China Sea, East China Sea. These aren't the South Japan Sea or West American Ocean etc.

    The real enemy in our region was/potentially still is Japan, strangely the USA was instrumental in defeating their barbaric quest for Asian domination and their rape and killing of millions of innocent women and children (see The Rape of Nanking The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Rape of Nanking 1937-38 )

    As for concern...why pick sides with a former brutal enemy? Regardless of the US 'self serving opinion' - LEST WE FORGET!

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    Using that interesting logic the west would have allowed the Soviet Union to walk through Europe as they were our allies in WW2 and the Germans had been our enemies. Now Germany is one of the wests strongest and best allies and front line defenders of Europe as are the Japanese our allies in the Pacific.

    While one of my favourite sayings is "those who don't look to history are bound to repeat its mistakes" in this case I reckon after reading your comment another saying is more relevant. "Those who dwell in the hatred of the past spend all of their time looking back and often fail to see where the future is."
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    Do not concentrate only in China, India has a very powerful army and air force. The 85% or more of the arsenal comes from Russia.
    Russia, China and India are members of BRICS together Brasil and South Africa.

    Russia looms large as Obama watches India Republic Day Parade

    Chinese President says will align with Russia in global affairs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Using that interesting logic the west would have allowed the Soviet Union to walk through Europe as they were our allies in WW2 and the Germans had been our enemies. Now Germany is one of the wests strongest and best allies and front line defenders of Europe as are the Japanese our allies in the Pacific.

    While one of my favourite sayings is "those who don't look to history are bound to repeat its mistakes" in this case I reckon after reading your comment another saying is more relevant. "Those who dwell in the hatred of the past spend all of their time looking back and often fail to see where the future is."
    Disagree. A retrospective stretch of the imagination to create a weak argument with no detail.

    Maybe you should try and understand your 'favorite' saying, you seem to be ignoring it's objective.

    As for your accusation of 'dwelling on hatred', your perception is incorrect. You give no proof whereas I actually provided some history.

    Move on grumpy stop trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland View Post
    Disagree. A retrospective stretch of the imagination to create a weak argument with no detail.
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    Ok, let me get this straight, so you don't believe that the Soviets in WW2 were our allies or that the Germans were our enemies? ...

    What was that about...lest we forget!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Ok, let me get this straight, you believe the Soviets in WW2 weren't our allies and the Germans weren't our enemies? ...

    What was that about...lest we forget!
    If soviets were the allies then who want an enemy.
    The soviets "allies" waited for long time to see if the Germans and Soviets finished so weak that it will be easy to eliminate both of them.
    Perhaps they wished that the Germans finished the soviets and then the allies have only to deal with a very weak opposition.
    Back fired, but that it is another story or thread.

    Back to China (and their friends ? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Using that interesting logic the west would have allowed the Soviet Union to walk through Europe as they were our allies in WW2 and the Germans had been our enemies...."
    Furthermore (if you bothered to study the history) the USSR were only allies DURING WW2. They certainly weren't before or afterward.

    I question the relevance of your comment as it relates to wartime, whereas now (in the real world) we are at peace, in relative terms.

    Of relevance to the US containment policy and partnership with Japan, Russia is also in dispute of islands north of Japan BBC News - Russian president visits disputed Kuril islands and preventing a FORMAL PEACE TREATY between the two countries.

    Please try to keep it relevant to the OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Ok, let me get this straight, so you don't believe that the Soviets in WW2 were our allies or that the Germans were our enemies? ...

    What was that about...lest we forget!
    As posted above......again you're trying to create a false perception. As I wrote, during the war ONLY. You should look into it, may learn something for example, the Nazis were the enemy, not the German people, that shows a lack of understanding of massive proportions...

    Fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Ok, let me get this straight...
    You couldn't get it straight, and you don't want to, as a mod you seek to create tension by selectively attacking and attempting to elevate yourself whenever you disagree or don't understand.

    How about saying you pick Japan, you don't like China and just leave it at that?

    Did I get that straight? You support closer ties with Japan and a containment policy for China? Or do you just want to play the man.....again.

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    Last edited by Greatsouthernland; 11th August 2015 at 10:26 AM.

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