Corby found guilty

Guilty or Innocent

Personally I think that only person who truely knows if she is innocent or not is her. Prisons are full of innocent people just ask the prisoners if they commited the offence they are being held for and they'll tell you they are innocent , that they have been set up it was someone else.

To my understanding of the legal systems both here and there unless there is someone else is convicted for smuggling (exporting without paying stamp duty :twisted: )the exact same dope in her bag, the whole "the baggage handlers did it" story doesn't hold water and is classed as hearsay evidence.

Imagine the up roar that would ensue after a trail was thrown out simply based on the fact that the accused said they didn't do it, regardless of the fact that Australian police have broken a drug trafficking ring which involves smuggling drugs in passangers bags it hasn't been proven that her bag was one of the bags used.

Also think of the ramifications of letting her go, every 2 bit drug mule will start using the same defence and get off as her case has set the precedence and they too will be let go.

Sure 20yrs is a long time to serve for a crime you may be innocent of but lets face it they did have another option, which I'm sure we'll see dealt out to the up coming Bali 9.

At the end of the day unless the wonderful people that bring us shows like suxty minutes, ACA, today to-F@#king-night, the daily Tele and every other form of propaganda we have available to us, we would be none the wiser and wouldn't careless what happens.

I'm sure there is enough here at home to fill my holiday card for the rest of my life and if I get to see it all before I die then I'll head to bali for a bodysurfing holiday with 47 boggie board bags all of which will be empty upon checking in :twisted:






which brings me to my next soap box point I'd like to announce:

T-shirts:

Made to look like Qantas Baggage handlers complete with the logo, with the words "Baggage Handler" on the front, on the back "How much and where to?"

Proffits from all sales will go to the me getting ****ed fund, a division of the help Kill the liver group. :twisted:

BOYCOTT that land of disrespecting Monkeys..They blatantly abuse copyright, prostitute poor orang-u-tangs and after we hand them a Billion$ and help them out all the time (they just spent 4 billion $ on a Boeing contract) they don't give fair western trials to westerners..
I'm not racist but I am certainly starting to dislike the northern monkeys..If their not blowing us up in the hundreds they are conducting bent trials :evil:
Boycott everything INDO for 12months ..I am...
geez I'm ****ed off.. sparked me up big time.. :twisted:

:oops: Eer, sorry about interupting your little civil/ethnic cleansing war in Achea, Oh great Indo neighbours, and Sorry about repossessing East Timor for the inhabitants at the request of the UN :oops: BUT you DID INVADE illegally in 1975, and your fishing boats are in Aust waters fishing illegally and we do charge and FINE the Captains and burn their boats, so to do pennance our Govt has stated it will sit on it's hands [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img] and won't bother to search for any baggage handlers at BRISBANE or SYDNEY Airports as that would show that the much trumpeted Securitary up grade DOESN'T WORK and that they might just be as bent as the public beleives, but that might get egg on Mr Kelty's face and we couldn't have that could we 8O But we have written a letter LAST WEEK to her defence team, :roll: If it wasn't so serious it would seem like a case of Keystone Cops :!:

8) its a shame rocket that we don't get hindsight when we get foresight.

and now perhaps the foresight and the backsight should be aligned on the target.
now choose the target.

no that would only waste money.

just keep our funding in our pockets until we need to nuke someone.

I personally do not believe she is guilty, but she may be a good actor. Regardless the prosecution did not prove their case and she should be set free. Vital evidence such as bag weights out of Brisbane and Sydney as well as fingerprinting of the bag were not allowed which would provide a great deal of detail. The other thing that disturbs me is that her leagl team would not take the assistance of WA QC Tom Percy for free who specialises in international law. I can not in all good consciousness sign the petition as they are advocating aginst the type of sentencing. I believe that if proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt for narctics then they should be executed. If only Australia dealt a little more harshly for trafficking we would not be in the situation we are in now. On the other extreme is the Bali 9 who deserve all they get.
My sincerest thoughts go out to the Corby family and to that poor girl Schapelle who I believe has been shafted.The rest of the world should boycott Bali and send them bankrupt as they rely heavily on tourism until they provide a fair trial with all the evidence not the witch hunt that has occured.
The sad thing is that bloody monster has got bugger all for killing many Australians. This should highlight the little value the indonesian justice system has put on westerners lives.

were do you all get this term "justice" system from?

australia has no such system nor does indonesia

we and they have "legal" systems. if they were justice systems they could not be manipulated by the big end of town and polititicians. they would be useless to them and thus wouldnt/dont exist.

it is sad, yes i agree, but why are people getting so upset over this girl when there are countless cases of similar injustices carried out in our little part of the world... you have all just been manipulated by the press, for the press and you all feel smug that you are more just than our asian niehbours.

go spend a night at a salvos refuge and see what our value set has done to hundreads of our own... they are screwed for life not just 20 years

shakes head and wonders what is the world coming to...

Rough justice.
Question? Don't the "Beagles" sniff outgoing baggage for dope or bombs?
Makes you wonder what else is under you when you fly!
Trev. :cry:

what makes me laugh is everyone I have spoken to attempts to equate this into our legal system, to be bitterly truthful it can't e it is their System with their laws.

Surely everyone who travels to Bali knows by now that if found with any illegal drug you could be facing the death penalty.

Look at it from the prospective of the judge for a moment. He can only judge this case based on the factual evidence before him which states as far as I understand she was asked if the boogie board bag was hers , to which she replied "YES" meaning the contents of said bag thefore belongs to her. the judge can't base his decission on hear say evidence give to him from anyone even that of a Prime minister of another country.

Based on factual evidence set before him the judge has made the only decission he could "guilty", Albeit unpopular to fellow australians.
You have to remember the vital part of this case is that it is in Bali not in Australia. Reverse the cituation for a moment and think of how light she would get off here for the same offence. Sure you say it's only pot, but think of how many kids at shcool or your own kids for that matter who are faced with the temptation of drugs everyday. Everyone knows of someone who started out just with the social smoke of pot, then tried harder drugs the one day woke up and found out they had an addiction.

Drugs don't buy them selves a herion habit fo example is quiet expensive(working in the security industry in kings cross opens your eyes) to feed the habit addicts have to steal or prostitute themselves faced with both options, stealing comes first. So what I never been broken into you say,
I v'e never had anything stolen, I'm sure your insurance premium reflects the costs to others.

Let's if the next trial (the bali 9)attracts as much attention after the target practise.

I wonder how many people would still be commiting drug offences here in australia if our legal system handed out the same sentences.

I understand your feelings. The tough bit is this. You get on a plane in Brisbane, land in Sydney? en route to Bali. (your bag has never left the hold, presumably). You land in Bali where a man in a uniform says is this your bag?. Yep, it is. (first time youve seen it since Bris).
Gone for 20 years. Simplistic I know, but very scary.
Given the current baggage handlers fiasco, its a bit hard to know if she really is guilty. Sounds a bit dodgy to get 20 years on this.

Trev. :?

I understand where you are coming from but the fact is the Laws that relate to her case don't include what happens in other countries, harsh as it may seem their judical system sees her to have ownership of the bag and it's contents. Not to do so would create a loop hole for ever drug smuggler exiting or entering their country.

I said it before there's only one person who knows the truth in this matter, I you can bet everything you have that whoever put it there isn't going to stand up and take ownership of the stuff, be it her or a baggage handler.

If the australian government was serious in helping her they would handover those responsible for the crimes, but we all know that won't happen as it would in affect be giving those allegedly responsible the death penalty.

What seems harsher giving a honest woman 20yrs to save a drug smuggler or exicuting a drug smuggler to save a woman, I know which one I'd choose.