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    QLD National Parks camp fire

    Hi Guys.

    Leaving for the cape this saturday. have been told some camp grounds dont allow a camp fire on the ground and I should buy something like this.

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    I was told buy the guy selling them. Is that actually an Issue or can I save my dollars for other stuff?

    Cheers

    Matt

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    You can have a campfire at Cape Hillsborough (the National park) if the fire is lifted 30cm off the ground. My fire-drum was not quite that high and the Ranger complained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzu110 View Post
    You can have a campfire at Cape Hillsborough (the National park) if the fire is lifted 30cm off the ground. My fire-drum was not quite that high and the Ranger complained.
    I was under the impression that fires were banned there altogether....

    But to Mattg - the parks website is pretty good for finding info these days Camp fires, fuel stoves and barbecues (Department of National Parks, Sport and Racing) check it out....

    Having a closer look.... http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/li...lities%5B%5D=5 this should be a list of camp grounds that allow fires.

    Hope you have a great trip!

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    Unfortunately, it's time to completely ban campfires just about everywhere.

    At every camping 'spot' I've been to over the last few years , every tree / shrub/ burnable bush has been shredded for hundreds of metres in every direction.

    The laybys on the Simpson tracks are disgusting with fire pits filled with cans and molten bottles just sprinkled over with dirt and in some cases the fire still smouldering.

    It's very simple.....only burn fuel you bring with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    Unfortunately, it's time to completely ban campfires just about everywhere.

    At every camping 'spot' I've been to over the last few years , every tree / shrub/ burnable bush has been shredded for hundreds of metres in every direction.

    The laybys on the Simpson tracks are disgusting with fire pits filled with cans and molten bottles just sprinkled over with dirt and in some cases the fire still smouldering.

    It's very simple.....only burn fuel you bring with you.
    You need to get to a better class of camp site, I can't say I been anywhere where everything has been shredded for 'hundreds of metres'.
    except one in the Simpson - but I think nature did that herself.
    Even here though we found enough dead sticks etc within a couple of hundred metres to have a small fire.


    I do agree about the cans/bottles in campfires though really ****es me off.


    Martyn

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    If you wish to economize on wood usage

    Try one one of these great for boiling the billy

    And small enough to cart with you

    I left the ungainly legs off mine

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    I spent several weeks in the Simpson 2 yrs ago, accompanied by a traditional land owner who was born there.

    We went into most of overnight campspots between the dunes and saw massive evidence of raping of everything burnable.

    Bottles and cans were rammed up animal burrows .....the Park Permit clearly states the maximum camping distance off the track , yet there people camped hundreds of metres further in.

    Every shallow lake had deep tyre marks cut into it from total ******* doing do nuts and these again went out into the lakebeds for hundreds of metres.

    In the mornings we stopped to extinguish many smouldering campfires and found cans bottles molten plastic and broken campchairs in the fire pits.

    as far as I am concerned all the 4wding in national parks should become a tagalong thing under full control of an authorised ranger , paid for by the campers.

    I know this post will incurr some wrath from readers , but if people can't use commonsense and some personal discipline and show some respect for the country and fellow park users , then it has to come down to heavily controlled supervision.

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    Hmm, the Qld national parks info is not complete as of a couple of years ago.
    When I camped at Byfield, I camped at Waterpark which had fireplaces.

    However in the instructions, it was stated that to have a fire on the beach camping areas, you had to have an elevated fire pit and only use timber that was bought from the local store at Byfield, or other clean milled timber, as they stated that "imported" timber could bring bugs and organisms into the park!
    The reasons given for the fire pits were that the sand would be disinfected of seeds and organisms if a fire were set on it.

    I am afraid my BS meter was on full volume at that stuff, but you should be aware of the conditions or be hassled. I recall a 4WD Australia crew were hassled by park staff when they were camped there.
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Hmm, the Qld national parks info is not complete as of a couple of years ago.
    When I camped at Byfield, I camped at Waterpark which had fireplaces.

    However in the instructions, it was stated that to have a fire on the beach camping areas, you had to have an elevated fire pit and only use timber that was bought from the local store at Byfield, or other clean milled timber, as they stated that "imported" timber could bring bugs and organisms into the park!
    The reasons given for the fire pits were that the sand would be disinfected of seeds and organisms if a fire were set on it.

    I am afraid my BS meter was on full volume at that stuff, but you should be aware of the conditions or be hassled. I recall a 4WD Australia crew were hassled by park staff when they were camped there.
    Regards Philip A
    Maybe you should have actually turned you meter off Philip as it does not seem to have been working correctly. There is absolutely no doubt that 'imported bush timber' could bring in alien animals and other bugs into the park. There are many native animals and plants that have been translocated (accidentally and intentionally) to areas where they did not naturally occur, and are now causing significant problems. I am not suggesting that these translocations occurred by way of 'fire wood' but there is no doubt it could be a vector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I spent several weeks in the Simpson 2 yrs ago, accompanied by a traditional land owner who was born there.

    We went into most of overnight campspots between the dunes and saw massive evidence of raping of everything burnable.

    Bottles and cans were rammed up animal burrows .....the Park Permit clearly states the maximum camping distance off the track , yet there people camped hundreds of metres further in.

    Every shallow lake had deep tyre marks cut into it from total ******* doing do nuts and these again went out into the lakebeds for hundreds of metres.

    In the mornings we stopped to extinguish many smouldering campfires and found cans bottles molten plastic and broken campchairs in the fire pits.

    as far as I am concerned all the 4wding in national parks should become a tagalong thing under full control of an authorised ranger , paid for by the campers.

    I know this post will incurr some wrath from readers , but if people can't use commonsense and some personal discipline and show some respect for the country and fellow park users , then it has to come down to heavily controlled supervision.
    I totally agree that the recalcitrance of some people leads people to look at lowest possible denominator solutions such as ban everyone.

    Why do the majority have to suffer for the minority's wrongs? If you are caught doing the type of things you mentioned. Fine them $50,000 and confiscate their vehicle.

    The group I travel with are law abiding adventure seekers and we act responsibly. Why should we have to go along with a hold your hand tour just because some imbeciles can't do the right thing.

    Belt the bad and leave the rest alone IMHO
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