Thread: My D3 has got a bit of a cold

Originally posted by Ace
I have total faith in electronics, yes they are complicated and yes there are few people who are qualified to fix them if something goes wrong in the bush, but electronics is the way of the world, all new cars are using them. Pretty soon we wont have much choice. Whilst a 300TDi disco is simple and any bush mechanic with some brain cells should be able to work on it things can still go wrong and you can still be left stranded waiting for parts or anything. Christ even the defender has electronic traction control these days. Matt

Holy hell,

Did I just read that Christ drives a Defender....with electronic traction control!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

I wonder if in ten years time I'll be able to strip and rebuild a D3 :?:

disco95 Wrote:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if in ten years time I'll be able to strip and rebuild a D3 [/b][/quote]

If you start practising on Chris' now..... in 10 years you might have it down pat :!: ........ sure he wouldn't mind

Mark

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DEFENDERZOOK)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-gruntfuttock
Fact

The more electronics you have in a car the more it <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">WILL</span> break down. The rate increases if it happens to be British [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]











running for cover

you shouldnt run from the truth...[/b][/quote]



Wasn't the truth I was running from [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

The reason I stated what I did in my first post was that the TCS (RACV over here) did a survey of all the call outs they have had in the last ten years or so, and what they were about and also the % of cars per year that broke down. They found that there was a direct relation to the amount of electronic gear on a car and the amount of breakdowns and they are getting more and more electronic call outs every year.



I do agree that electronics improve the vehicle in many aspects and it is the future of car technology. I would like to see however an option on cars like the D3 that you can "over-ride" the electronic system if you get into trouble, be it only at 50 km/h max or something like that.

Just my 2 bob's worth.


I'd still like a D3 if I could afford one though

Originally posted by Feral+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Feral)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace
I have total faith in electronics, yes they are complicated and yes there are few people who are qualified to fix them if something goes wrong in the bush, but electronics is the way of the world, all new cars are using them. Pretty soon we wont have much choice. Whilst a 300TDi disco is simple and any bush mechanic with some brain cells should be able to work on it things can still go wrong and you can still be left stranded waiting for parts or anything. Christ even the defender has electronic traction control these days. Matt

Holy hell,

Did I just read that Christ drives a Defender....with electronic traction control!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img][/b][/quote]

Yeah, on the 8th day they created Toyota and got it bogged in a cloud, so on the 9th day he traded it in on a Defender Extreme. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Originally posted by gruntfuttock
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I do agree that electronics improve the vehicle in many aspects and it is the future of car technology. I would like to see however an option on cars like the D3 that you can "over-ride" the electronic system if you get into trouble, be it only at 50 km/h max or something like that.

I think most of the new cars have a limp home mode built in, but that want work if the ECU is dead !!

Matt.

Originally posted by gruntfuttock
The reason I stated what I did in my first post was that the TCS (RACV over here) did a survey of all the call outs they have had in the last ten years or so, and what they were about and also the % of cars per year that broke down. They found that there was a direct relation to the amount of electronic gear on a car and the amount of breakdowns and they are getting more and more electronic call outs every year.

and here lies the problem - electronics and pressurised water!!!

To add the the above quote, in the UK there has been a increase in cars electronics braking down - NOT ALL ARE LR PRODUCTS!!!

The reasons coming from the RAC / TCS / AA (NRMA here in NSW) was the attempts of owners trying to "keep up with the Jones" by constanly washing the engine bay with an ever increasing number of high pressure hoses.

Do these people think that it goes quicker when cleaner? or does the neighbour even look under the bonnet of their car?

As suggested in these posts - electronics are more reliable than mechanical devices, just they don't like pressurised water - I guess its like putting a couple if litres of water into the oil top up in an older non electro motor?

LRH