Autonomous Vehicles

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Originally Posted by bee utey

None of this is really that difficult to solve. Seeing that many big city cars already carry transponders (for toll roads) it's no big stretch of the imagination to think that soon all vehicles will have to carry them as part of their registration. That way every AV will know when a vehicle piloted by a squishie is invading their space and they'll act accordingly. Non tagged (ie unregistered) vehicles can be herded into the gutter by drone cop cars and subsequently towed away.

People here may passionately hate the idea but tracking everyone and everything in real time is what the future holds for us plebs. It's already started with sheep:

How ear tags are transforming the sheep and goat industry - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Faulty tags?

And how about the vast majority of road mileage that have zero policing at present - the expenditure needed to provide these robocops to detect unregistered vehicles (or tags that are faulty) would be pretty massive. And people who live outside of the major cities might just possibly be a little irritated at yet another imposition just to meet situations that they rarely if ever encounter.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Faulty tags?

And how about the vast majority of road mileage that have zero policing at present - the expenditure needed to provide these robocops to detect unregistered vehicles (or tags that are faulty) would be pretty massive. And people who live outside of the major cities might just possibly be a little irritated at yet another imposition just to meet situations that they rarely if ever encounter.

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Faulty tags will be identified in the same way as number plate cams on cop cars can already check your rego without stopping, i.e. automatically. This kind of technology gets cheaper every year.

Rego with tags may be optional at first, allowing the vehicle to be charged by the congestion-mile rather than by a flat annual fee. There will be people jumping over themselves to get discount rego this way. Once they're popular, then wham, everyone gets them. A few country cousins' complaints won't stop the blanket surveillance gathering pace. Remember how rego labels were once a thing? Now they're obsolete because Big Data does rego checks much more easily.

Oh and GPS works nearly everywhere. Lots of phone towers around too to cover the bulk of the population. Prepare to be tracked in your every move......... we are dooooomed! [bawl]

No tolls, no tags, in adelaide.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

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Oh and GPS works nearly everywhere. Lots of phone towers around too to cover the bulk of the population. Prepare to be tracked in your every move......... we are dooooomed! [bawl]

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Most of Australia by area, including perhaps 50% of the mileage of roads has no mobile coverage. This may not include a large proportion of the population, but it does cover a lot of road kilometres.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Most of Australia by area, including perhaps 50% of the mileage of roads has no mobile coverage. This may not include a large proportion of the population, but it does cover a lot of road kilometres.

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But unless you're a true bush hermit you're going to visit a town or highway with signal at some time or another.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

But unless you're a true bush hermit you're going to visit a town or highway with signal at some time or another.

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But according to some here, they won't go unless they have internet coverage...

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Originally Posted by Homestar

But according to some here, they won't go unless they have internet coverage...

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Which of course is quite silly, internet is for updates. And that's not even taking satellite cover into account, present or future.

What i proposed is that the government will end up with some degree of control over where you can go.

With technological advances (e.g. 5g, satphone technology, etc etc), being 100% connected to the internet wherever you are is probably going to happen before any rollout of fully autonomous vehicles, particularly those without a steering wheel.

And even without that, "updates" can easily contain material that will create exclusion zones on your navigator.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Which of course is quite silly, internet is for updates. And that's not even taking satellite cover into account, present or future.

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Yep, try telling some here that...

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Originally Posted by rammypluge

What i proposed is that the government will end up with some degree of control over where you can go.

With technological advances (e.g. 5g, satphone technology, etc etc), being 100% connected to the internet wherever you are is probably going to happen before any rollout of fully autonomous vehicles, particularly those without a steering wheel.

And even without that, "updates" can easily contain material that will create exclusion zones on your navigator.

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Sounds like a logical extension of the present day, where vehicle access is controlled by "road rules", "signs", "fences" and "gates".