Autonomous Vehicles

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Originally Posted by steane

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/elon-m...sla-can-drive/

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I know all about that - I do it to some of my generators from time to time - great when it works, but will bring things to a grinding halt as well from time to time....

As does the automatic updates on SWMBO computer.

Be buggered if I'd let a car company keep screwing with my car like that. What the warranty claim going to be when you go out to drive to work in the morning and the automatic update puts your car into reverse instead of drive... :D

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Originally Posted by jonesfam

Nice hazard detection sensors, nerd: Why humans should bully driverless cars - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Funny?

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I'm just chuckling with the idea that my Defender is probably almost as far as it's possible to get from a driverless car. I wonder if I'm driving it along and we meet a driverless car if it will cower in fear as we go past.
Actually, the perfect vehicle for bullying driverless cars might be a battered, rusty, dented and smoky old 60 series Toyota, crabbing its way across the lanes, trailing oil speckles while seeking out its victims, since the driverless car might be smart enough to realise the old 60 couldn't give a flying fart about getting more dents by shoving the DC out of its way.

The Tesla might have eight cameras, but how is it going to cope with road trains? Picture the scene: A Tesla comes up behind a 53.5 metre triple road train, lumbering along an unsealed road out the back of nowhere, trailing behind it a soupy slurry of cow****, rocks, mangled roo limbs and an impenetrable sandstowm of gritty dust. No way those eight cameras can see if it is safe to pass. So, what does that super-smart ECU do? Fry its circuits in a fog of indecision?

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The Tesla might have eight cameras, but how is it going to cope with road trains? Picture the scene: A Tesla comes up behind a 53.5 metre triple road train, lumbering along an unsealed road out the back of nowhere, trailing behind it a soupy slurry of cow****, rocks, mangled roo limbs and an impenetrable sandstowm of gritty dust. No way those eight cameras can see if it is safe to pass. So, what does that super-smart ECU do? Fry its circuits in a fog of indecision?

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I doubt a Tesla would meet a road train. 400km and they're dead flat.
It takes about 24 hours to charge from dead flat on a 240V 10A socket.

If the aim is to automate most things people do , why have people about ? I don't see the masses performing exercises of great intellectual benefit

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I doubt a Tesla would meet a road train. 400km and they're dead flat.
It takes about 24 hours to charge from dead flat on a 240V 10A socket.

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:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
Because nobody has ever installed a 3 phase outlet outside of the bitumen road network. Next thing, you'll state that heavier than air flight is impossible, because Isuzu diesel engines are too heavy. :wheelchair:

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Anyway, I wonder how autonomous cars will cope with this sort of thing:

Toilet paper spill causes peak hour traffic chaos in Melbourne - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

White lines everywhere... :p

My Firefox doesn't like that site . so I couldn't read the whole article.

However I have read elsewhere that there will be a price premium of USD10K for the enhanced version.
This would lift the new model price quite a lot if Std and I wonder how many will go for it, although buyers of Teslas seems to be new adopters who buy just to be the first with the latest.
Regards Philip A

I was just thinking about the LA to NY comment by Musk.

I wonder how often the GPS data would have to be updated for that to work.

You know things like contra flows, men at work, new one way streets, detours, new expressways.
I know my GPS wanted me to drive into the lake south of Emerald and the dam has been there for years and years.

Regards Philip A

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

I was just thinking about the LA to NY comment by Musk.

I wonder how often the GPS data would have to be updated for that to work.

You know things like contra flows, men at work, new one way streets, detours, new expressways.
I know my GPS wanted me to drive into the lake south of Emerald and the dam has been there for years and years.

Regards Philip A

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Maybe your GPS doesn't like you?

I heard about a South Korean couple who flew into Brisbane, rented a car, set the GPS for Cairns and set off.
They were eventually found bogged at the end of a dead-end forestry trail in the hills west of Bundaberg, after following the GPS. Doesn't inspire confidence in GPS accuracy.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
Because nobody has ever installed a 3 phase outlet outside of the bitumen road network.

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A friend has a Tesla. Sadly, the required infrastructure to operate these vehicles Australia wide is not yet in place. Drop into a petrol station and ask if you can plug your car into a 3 phase socket for eight hours and see what I mean. You'll be lucky if they have a 16A socket available. For me to go for a drive to Melbourne CBD and back in a Tesla it's fine. For me to drive to Adelaide in a Tesla is an overnighter whereas I could comfortably do it in the Commodore within daylight hours.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Next thing, you'll state that heavier than air flight is impossible, because Isuzu diesel engines are too heavy. :wheelchair:

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Don't be silly. The fuelling infrastructure is in place at the airports and planes nowdays have such big fuel tanks.
I don't see many battery powered commercial aircraft flying from capital city to capital city, let alone the long haul flights.