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    a weapon is..

    any tool used with the intent to cause harm to a person, animal or object.


    with enough effort, you could weaponize anything.


    specifically in your case they are asking about easily wield able things, knives, guns, hatchets, short swords and less about things like trebuchets, howitzers and stinger missiles.
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    Last week I bought a knife sharpening steel in Coles. The young guy on the checkout was embarrassed but asked me to show him my licence as it was classified as a "weapon" and I needed to be over 18 (I am 43 so it was slightly amusning). Apparently that is now policy at Coles.

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    For a knife, I'd understand. But not for a sharpening steel. A frying pan would make a better 'weapon' than that!
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    An elderly woman with a ball of yarn and a couple of Milford No.8's is packing heat according to the airlines.

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    I can very much understand this question. You don't want an Alzheimer sufferer for example to have access to weapons. Here's an example, my grandfather suffered from alzheimers ..... he'd had a shotgun, .33 and .22 his entire life .... The .22 lived under a flap of carpet in back of his 4wd.

    Once symptoms start showing, they are no longer themselves. and I COULD see someone with dementia shooting someone. No matter how much of a pacifist they were through life. I remember the cops being rang at one point to haul him off to the nuthouse again. He was pumped of enough drugs to knockout a horse, but was still running up and down the street like a crazed demented super strong person ( even though he was in his 70's and not a well person). The cops turned up, they were both ****ting themselves and pulled out there service revolvers..... We jump straight in "Bloody hell, you want need them" .... They were unloading there guns so he couldn't grab them and shoot them with there own guns. Remember all these old guys lived through a world war, so are proficient with the use of most firearms.

    You have no idea how dementia can effect someone, so yes, I think asking about weapons in the house is a very valid question. Obviously most people will think guns and knives/swords.

    I don't worry at all about current laws and have carried a small folding knife since I was a little kids. These days I always have a Leatherman or SOG multi-tool attached to my belt. The best bit about these modern multi-tools, especially the SOG is the ability to deploy both the blades and the pliers one handed. I'd never use it for self defense..... It's a heavily used tool.

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    For the purpose of the questionnaire, it's generalised as anything that someone would ordinarily recognise as a weapon, and as so despite in any deteriorated mental state may potentially recognise and use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I can very much understand this question. You don't want an Alzheimer sufferer for example to have access to weapons. Here's an example, my grandfather suffered from alzheimers ..... he'd had a shotgun, .33 and .22 his entire life .... The .22 lived under a flap of carpet in back of his 4wd.

    Once symptoms start showing, they are no longer themselves. and I COULD see someone with dementia shooting someone. No matter how much of a pacifist they were through life. I remember the cops being rang at one point to haul him off to the nuthouse again. He was pumped of enough drugs to knockout a horse, but was still running up and down the street like a crazed demented super strong person ( even though he was in his 70's and not a well person). The cops turned up, they were both ****ting themselves and pulled out there service revolvers..... We jump straight in "Bloody hell, you want need them" .... They were unloading there guns so he couldn't grab them and shoot them with there own guns. Remember all these old guys lived through a world war, so are proficient with the use of most firearms.

    You have no idea how dementia can effect someone, so yes, I think asking about weapons in the house is a very valid question. Obviously most people will think guns and knives/swords.

    I don't worry at all about current laws and have carried a small folding knife since I was a little kids. These days I always have a Leatherman or SOG multi-tool attached to my belt. The best bit about these modern multi-tools, especially the SOG is the ability to deploy both the blades and the pliers one handed. I'd never use it for self defense..... It's a heavily used tool.

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    I see it as just ticking boxes Yes the question needs to be asked but the question is flawed, it should be, is it or will it be a dangerous situation if I visit your home. That is what they want to know, asking about weapons is not providing them the
    Information they need

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    Quote Originally Posted by boa View Post
    I see it as just ticking boxes Yes the question needs to be asked but the question is flawed, it should be, is it or will it be a dangerous situation if I visit your home. That is what they want to know, asking about weapons is not providing them the
    Information they need
    No, I think they have it right. You see a dementia patient maybe perfectly fine when this form is filled in ..... what about 6weeks down the track ? or 3months down the track. Depending on the condition they are being treated for any weapons need to be removed from the house earlier rather than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    It is to do with risk assessment for their staff, visiting households.

    The list of questions includes:
    - Infectious diseases
    - Weapons in the house
    - House in bushfire risk area
    - Multiple safe exits from the house
    - Animals/Pets roaming
    - Any smokers in the house
    - and a few more to boot

    We write the software that Alz uses for assessing clients, so that's how I know....
    Yes was asked all of them but as stated weapons is too subject. I was involved in risk assessment for the government. Most had no idea of what was going on. No historical information on events. I was on a team for a major government building during a visit by the queen. We had people on the roof armed and most asked why.

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