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    If I remember correctly, having done exactly that exercise about 40 years ago, the order is of no real importance.

    The point of the exercise is not about getting the items in the right order. It is about analysing the way the group tries to come to some agreement about the order in which the objects should be placed.

    Doing the exercise by yourself defeats the purpose for which the exercise is usually used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Or as another good friend of mine who's a very clever Psych says, positive thinking is a crock of **** !
    His comment is also relevant to the effect of positive thinking on cancer survival rates. There are all sorts of other reasons why it might be a good idea to maintain a positive attitude, but improving your survival chances is definitely not one of them.


    Cancer survival not linked to a positive attitude, study finds
    In the large-scale study conducted over nine years, Coyne and colleagues used baseline quality-of-life questionnaires to assess the well-being of 1,093 cancer patients. All participants were involved in clinical trials, which ensured uniformity of treatment and ruled out substantial health disparities in the sample. During the study, 646 patients died, and the research team found no relationship between their emotional well-being and cancer progression and death

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    Dave, I agree with what you have said about leadership styles, but it seemed to me that people were completely ignoring the primary focus of the research and the article.

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    It is amazing what people actually do get paid to do..Years ago during my masters degree I discovered the meaning of the circular flights in Shags (the sea bird). Doing a project and watching them for a few days it was obvious, bird returns from fishing trip, lands on ledge. Bird at end of said ledge gets pushed off, does a circular flight back to ledge and pushes in. This continues until all birds are happily on ledge. That is it no rocket science yet my observations got followed up with someone doing a phd basically getting paid to look into this!!
    Apart nobody cares why birds do this there must be more important things in the world to spend money on?
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    I'm not convinced that this research was pointless.

    There are a lot of people who seem to believe that a happy team is a productive team.

    There are a lot of people who make a lot of money taking people through exercises that are supposed to create team harmony.

    There are a lot of executives who spend good money sending employees on team building courses.

    Why is it a waste of time to do some research that reveals that it might be a waste of time and money to send a group of employees to one of these team building exercises?

    If it is so bleeding obvious that it is a waste of time, why do so many captains of industry pay so much money for their employees to attend these course?

    Surely there is good reason to do research that shows that the money and effort might be better spent on other things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    There are a lot of people who seem to believe that a happy team is a productive team.
    an unhappy team does not mean a productive team.

    a happy team is more likely to stay in their job, which reduces costs.
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    I recently moved from a job where the team environment was toxic to the point where I had to put a great deal of effort in to go in to work. I left and now work in an organisation where people smile, interact in a positive manner and the difference in the output from the two organisations is staggering.

    IMHO I would much rather work with positive smiling people than doomsayers and narcissists.
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    wait till you have to deal with an organisation that is happy yet incompetent...

    and they think you should be happy with the outcome just because they're happy.

    I mean I guess I should be thankful that my test came back negative for ovarian cancer and my papsmear shows clear but
    a, I could have told you that
    b, that does nothing to answer the question about whats going on with the thing in my lung and where my results are from the last time I came in and you were going to look for them.
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    Eevo and Chenz, what you are saying is quite correct.

    However, in a way the fact that you are saying it and the fact that is is true is evidence that this research needed to be done and was not pointless or a waste of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    wait till you have to deal with an organisation that is happy yet incompetent....
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