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    100 Year Old Man In Court............

    I heard a little about this on the radio earlier, didn't get the full story but it appears he sold his 3 year old car for $500 to a needy buyer. The new owner has not registered the car in his name and has run up lots of parking fines, speeding tickets, jumping red lights etc etc.

    Now Norm Bravo has received all the fines in the post and has to go to court to prove his innocence.

    100-year-old man fights fines under his name

    Makes you wonder how the justice system works in Australia

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    I don't really see the issue.
    If he didn't let the RTA, or equivalent, know he sold the car how are they to know?
    So they ask him to show them that he had disposed of the car.

    He could make a statutory declaration - with assistance, if required.

    It just how our system works.

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    Its a legal system, not a justice system. Never has been otherwise.

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    Not always that easy to notify the RTA of the sale of a vehicle.

    I sold a Perentie to someone from WA but couldn't use the online notification because the NSW RMS system doesn't recognise interstate driver's licence numbers.

    Because it went on the back of a truck to Perth, I didn't have a signature to do it over the counter, so I packaged it up and mailed the papers I had to the regional processing centre. What else can one do?.

    Years ago I ran a primary health unit in Kings Cross, one of the strippers would buy a cheap car with a few months rego, would never transfer the rego, would park anywhere in the cross and dump the car when the rego ran out. So it is very important to notify the authorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korg20000bc View Post
    I don't really see the issue.
    If he didn't let the RTA, or equivalent, know he sold the car how are they to know?
    So they ask him to show them that he had disposed of the car.

    He could make a statutory declaration - with assistance, if required.

    It just how our system works.
    The disposal and acquisition of Vehicles in Vic changed years ago. don't blame the old bloke.
    In Vic there used to be 2 forms required, 1 was a notice of disposal that the seller would fill in and forward to the RTA, the other was the acquistion form which the buyer had to fill in and hand in to the RTA and pay the stamp duty and transfer fee.
    So some unknown reason the system was changed.
    A form of of aqusitisiopn was the only document and the Sell signed and put their details on it, handed it to the buyer and IT IS THE BUYERS RESPONSIBILTY to hand it in to RTA.
    The Rego certificate has the info required for the RTA in VIC and it is given to the buyer to forward
    This leaves the seller in a bind, as he has no obligation or form to let VIC roads know. I think this new system is open for problems just like the old gentle experienced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsperka View Post
    Its a legal system, not a justice system. Never has been otherwise.
    So true them words

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    Round one over in sixty seconds

    100-year-old fights fines in Victoria

    Lets hope the "new owner" is made to pay, he's certainly shown no respect for a 100 year old gentleman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    don't blame the old bloke.
    I'm not blaming him.
    My point is that unless the required procedures are followed officialdom assumes that the situation hasn't changed.

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    It's an automated process to issue a court attendance notice when someone ignores the demand to nominate a driver/person responsible for an offence.

    The 'system' just sees the last registered owner, not their age etc...

    This is another media beat up over nothing. What's the age you have to reach so that you can do whatever you like?? He's not a bad bloke, he just stuffed up.

    He didn't what you're supposed to do - he get's a court date - the magistrate chucks it - all over.


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