new defender 2019 ?

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

That's been speculated, but it could only sell in markets which don't require the latest emissions standards and crash test results.

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Exactly, thats why i said 3rd world markets.

I disagree with Terry though on the new models fighting for market share, what ever form the Defender replacement takes its highly unlikely to be competing with a Discovery unless it shares the same platform which will be a turn off for most of the die hard fans.

Then the die hard fans will be replaced with the soft targets. :twisted:

I'm betting JLR will do its best through price, appointments, gizmos and general luxury features to ensure the new Defender doesn't compete with the D5. I'm betting the standard level Defender won't have leather seats and the high spec model will be more expensive than a similar appointed D5.

I think it will aim at work and recreational market.

There better be a ute or they'll miss out on the work market entirely.




Also I am SICK of posts of the DC100 all over facebook (especially) claiming the DC100 is THE new defender going into production.


as the article Inc linked to says -

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(the new Defender) won't bear much resemblance to the DC100 concept shown back in 2011

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I'm just sick of telling people they are full of **** so I don't bother any more.

Just a thought, Defender tragics should come to terms with the Mahindra as the only option, unless a Tata knock down version is in the pipeline. The knock down option makes sense, because it would employ workers in England, initially, then the cheaper workers in India [ place country name here.]

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Originally Posted by TerryO

In reality the 4x4 market whether they be Tritons or Rangies is basically the same market and even if you add up every new 4x4 sold in the world stage it is small compared to the passenger car market, so no matter what the new Defender and Disco will compete against each other...

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Rubbish. 4WD sales are currently on par with passenger car market and Land Rover sales were up 34% in January. This is the market growth zone. Differentiation is everything.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Just a thought, Defender tragics should come to terms with the Mahindra as the only option, unless a Tata knock down version is in the pipeline. The knock down option makes sense, because it would employ workers in England, initially, then the cheaper workers in India [ place country name here.]

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Been looking at Mahindra's, they are very good, but they are not a Defender either. The only thing out there that ticks the boxes is a Defender..
Chris

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Rubbish. 4WD sales are currently on par with passenger car market and Land Rover sales were up 34% in January. This is the market growth zone. Differentiation is everything.

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Again for some reason you are taking a myopic view on all of this.

I'm guessing you are quoting Australian sales numbers and that is fine, but Disco's and Defenders are not just built for the Australian market are they? And LR don't just decide on their world wide production time frames for new model releases based around what might sell in Australia.

I invite you to go back and read what I actually wrote, I did actually say 'world'.

JLR latest quarterly sales figures (October 2015) were very roughly evenly divided between UK, Europe, China, nth America, & other. Other which includes Australia. The sales numbers included Jaguars.

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Originally Posted by rar110

JLR latest quarterly sales figures (October 2015) were very roughly evenly divided between UK, Europe, China, nth America, & other. Other which includes Australia. The sales numbers included Jaguars.

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Which is great to hear but LR and Jaguar are still very much a niche manufacturer compared to the big brands so while percentages are improving the number of overall sales would still not be big. But with the new models coming out that I'm sure they are hoping to change.