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    I think it is a copout to blame capitalism per se. The buck stops with the average consumer who pays the lowest possible price for everything and seeks the maximum short term return on their investments (and remember most people have a significant investment in 'capitalism' via their super), and assumes that their individual activities have no long term effect.

    This flows to tax and regulation practices that discourage anything long term, and penalise risk taking by not allowing anyone to receive high profits for high risk. It also flows to elections being decided by people voting based on what they perceive as "what policy will give the best outcome for me in the short term". Nearly everyone I have talked to voted in the last election based on what it meant to them and their families personally, without regard to the long term picture. And this is what politicians work to.

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    Interesting ideas.
    I did do something to help Aussie manufacturers this week - I ordered seatbox corners from from Wayne at Nugget Stuff.

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    Can't say I have. Been buying Canadian beer in Toronto bars. Not a bad deal either !

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    In a growth capital economy with high wages and living costs, but stagnant wage growth, low interest rates, slowing super returns and where most citizens are just keeping their heads above water, it seems to me that buying Australian products has become not only very difficult to justify, but almost unAustalian.

    As costs of housing, utilities, food and services rise in order for the owners of these businesses to cover costs, the majority have little money left to be conscientious consumers of Australian products that cost more than imports.

    It's illuminating to realise that in terms of motor vehicles there really is no such thing as a premium brand anymore. When Toyotas cost as much or more than Land Rovers, BMW's, Audi's, VW's, etc. it says a lot about global priorities, relative wealth in Australia and the priorities of a massive continent that can't even keep its own car manufacturing industry afloat.

    We are on a greed driven growth capitalist hiding to nothing. We are slow, ponderous, self-centred and totally lacking in vision.

    Interesting article comparing Australia to China by Ross Gittens in The Age & SMH today: China thinks big, while Australia waits for luck to strike

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Interesting ideas.
    I did do something to help Aussie manufacturers this week - I ordered seatbox corners from from Wayne at Nugget Stuff.

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    Oops Thanks for reminding me. Sorry Wayne I'll get on to it tonight.
    Cheers, Billy.
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    I would not mind betting, that for most Australians, their Charity bills would add up to a significant amount. What if they offset the extra expenditure of buying Australian against their combined Charity bill? Then perhaps we would have less need to be Charitable.
    Cheers, Billy.
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    Good thought but we give away 10% of our income so I think I'd rather just buy Aussie.

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    Being charitable takes many forms. In a civil society many of these don't involve money at all.

    Being generous to those in need is something we can all do better with here in Australia. We often do better as individuals than as a collective society, but we still operate under an overall ethos of winner take all, which only increases the need for charity rather than diminish it. What it does diminish though is the self-esteem of those in need, firstly because the winners have the power of choice as to who to be charitable towards and secondly because those in need are kept in that place by a society that really struggles with the underlying nature of human equality. Charity is part of the problem.

    While it's obviously better than nothing to be charitable, financially it is only a bandaid solution to that which is a much bigger issue caused by the power struggle of growth capitalism. Indeed charity has been used for eons by governments, churches and the wealthy as an instrument of power.

    I don't think buying Australian has any relation to charity. But buying ethically, buying quality and buying responsibly is part of the solution. It's a global discussion.

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    As the disposable dollar goes, most is spent on local stuff. I contribute each year the community radio station , and a bit of volunteer work , watch local bands in local venues , when they aren't being shut down, music from shops in country , but maybe imported. Food is generally locally sourced as are the mortgages. I figure not a bad percentage. It is too bad our private media is seemingly all outsourced and biased to whoever provides the feed.

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    Interesting article on penalties.
    The trickle down theory has been proven false, a flow out/up theory would work far better for all business . That is basically an increase in disposable income means more spent at local retail , hospitality and business's resulting in a better outcome for all.
    The Flawed Economics of Cutting Penalty Rates - Centre for Future Work

    The retail sector in Whyalla is being decimated by potential wage cuts. Up to 50% reduction in spending, ouch!
    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...ailout/7693476

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