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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post


    The onus has fallen on the electrical contractors to rectify the work, not Masters. The cost of stripping and rewiring will be far more than the original price, this will send many hard working contractors and companies to the wall.
    Masters only have to replace the defective materials.
    Not true - certainly not in Victoria anyway. The recall is voluntary, so anyone who thinks they have this cable installed needs to employ the services of an Electrician to check thier premises and pay them for rectification works. An Electrician cannot be held responsible if the product installed was legal and approved when installed (which it was).

    There is a similar case in Victoria at the moment where large quantities of CCA was installed (legally) into a building. That brand of cable has now had its approval withdrawn by ESV and is not allowed to be used, but the contractor that installed it (although hit up for the cost of replacement - around a million dollars worth of work) - doesn't have to oblige as the product was legal when he sold it. He has had legal council on this and the owner of the building has backed off as they have no recourse now.
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    Someone will pay and it won't be the manufacturer.
    As Mick sais "Buy Australian".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Not true - certainly not in Victoria anyway. The recall is voluntary, so anyone who thinks they have this cable installed needs to employ the services of an Electrician to check thier premises and pay them for rectification works. An Electrician cannot be held responsible if the product installed was legal and approved when installed (which it was).

    There is a similar case in Victoria at the moment where large quantities of CCA was installed (legally) into a building. That brand of cable has now had its approval withdrawn by ESV and is not allowed to be used, but the contractor that installed it (although hit up for the cost of replacement - around a million dollars worth of work) - doesn't have to oblige as the product was legal when he sold it. He has had legal council on this and the owner of the building has backed off as they have no recourse now.
    I'm passing on information, as relayed to me, by an electrician friend, re the situation in Queensland.

    As Mick says, support Aussie products when possible. Why would anybody trust manufacturing from a country prepared to dilute baby formula with cheaper poison?
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    That was all about lowering the birth rate Ian.
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    I have two choices , pay a fair number of dollars to get a custom tv/stereo cabinet made up , or go to the Swedish flat pack shop and get something off the shelf and modify slightly to suit. Not a decision I like to make but searches dont show much comparable especially to give enough storage space for records or allow the lid to raise on the turntable. Flat pack results in mass consumption of beer to erase the nitemare of the visit and build but custom prices !

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    Quote Originally Posted by trog View Post
    I have two choices , pay a fair number of dollars to get a custom tv/stereo cabinet made up , or go to the Swedish flat pack shop and get something off the shelf and modify slightly to suit. Not a decision I like to make but searches dont show much comparable especially to give enough storage space for records or allow the lid to raise on the turntable. Flat pack results in mass consumption of beer to erase the nitemare of the visit and build but custom prices !
    I ended up getting something custom made. By an Australian craftsman. Locally.
    Very happy with the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trog View Post
    I have two choices , pay a fair number of dollars to get a custom tv/stereo cabinet made up , or go to the Swedish flat pack shop and get something off the shelf ... <snip>!
    often made by prisoners under indentured servitude. Even the Swidish firm's factories in the US have complaints from workers who can't survive on the full time wages they receive.

    On the other hand, apart from individual craftsmen, how many iconic Aussie brands are still actually owned in Australia, the list is short and getting shorter.

    Our balance of trade figures always seems to include a proportion of profit taking, if they were still Aussie owned, the profits would remain in Australia and not damage our nation's balance sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    I regularly tell people to buy parts from O/S instead of here,I do it for good reason,an example is my heater matrix,$52 Aus from the UK,5 day delivery time,from an Oz supplier,$405 with a 5 day delivery time,now you tell me why should I buy from an Oz company and pay them $353 to order a part from O/S when it took me 3 minutes to do myself?.I also look at the vehicle industry,Ford and Holden went bust because they cannot compete with cheap imports,thats the general consensus anyway,well why can't they compete when they only spend about $150 on R/D,most of that is working out how to fit a crate motor into what ever heap of **** they were making at the time when Land Rover can make the most advanced 4wd vehicles on the road,all made in the UK with HIGHER costs than we have because of the strength of the pound and not only survive but thrive,selling the highest number of the most advanced vehicles you will find anywhere over the last couple of years?.Australian companys have gone bust because they sell a rubbish product or a product they want to sell instead of a product the customer wants to buy for and inflated price with the WORST absolute WORST customer service you will find anywhere. Pat
    Pat, how hard did you look for an Australian made/manufactured product before buying O/S.
    My experiences have shown to be the opposite of what you're stating.
    For example, was looking to buy a Magnetti Marrelli alternator for my 300TDi, shopped around here at home and got prices ranging from $600 to (from Karcraft, Silverwater, Sydney), $305 delivered Express Post one day later.
    Best price I could get in UK was from Paddocks for $158 AUD., great says I, I'll have one of those, then the lady says it will cost $150 AUD. for packaging and delivery for a total cost of $308 and up to 5 days delivery, which is way better than anything from the USA, up to 20 days before the Item even leaves the USA, and at prices that will make your bum bleed.
    So my Alternator arrives 1 day later and $3 cheaper than from O/S.
    It pays to shop around and then support Aussie dealers that do the right thing on prices and delivery, I buy most of my LR stuff from Karcraft even though I might be able to get it cheaper down here locally (uni-joints for instance), Regards Frank.

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