Thread: This makes me cringe.

I laugh when people get it wrong. Then I might give a little lecture.

I have this laminated on my office wall. Sums up my position on this matter.

Aah! but Isuzu Perentie's are real,military 110 Landrovers fitted with 4BD1 Isuzu motors and the faithful LT-95a transmission.

Reading the current LRO magazine, they have on the cover heli lifting a UK Wolf LR described as a defender.
So, by definition are all coil sprung land Rovers, excluding early Disco and Range Rover subsets of a Defender family, honest question

only in the press.

just like how they all use the word toyota to describe any toyota 4x4 but the sad sacks over in their world know the difference between 60 70 75 and 80 series.

I expected better from LRO magazine

but then
[ame]http://www.landrover.com/Images/Military%20Products%202012_ENG_tcm281-88776.pdf[/ame] LandRover considers the Wolf family to be a Defender variant, so i imagine the same applies to Perentie and other variants i know not of.

Sure Land Cruiser has a range of 70 series variants, which is part of a larger family of evolution 40 ...........200 etc

Originally Posted by AndyG

I expected better from LRO magazine

but then
http://www.landrover.com/Images/Mili...m281-88776.pdf LandRover considers the Wolf family to be a Defender variant, so i imagine the same applies to Perentie and other variants i know not of.

Sure Land Cruiser has a range of 70 series variants, which is part of a larger family of evolution 40 ...........200 etc

"Defender" was introduced in 1989 as a name to cover new production of the vehicles that previously were "Landrover" models, originally made by the Rover company, but at the time by Leyland. The name "Landrover" became a marque name rather than a model name, being extended to also cover the new Discovery and the previous Rover/Leyland model "Rangerover".

So the name "Defender" cannot legitimately be extended to cover pre-1989 Landrovers, including the Perentie, although it could possibly be extended to those Perenties built after that date - but generally is not. Perentie, incidentally, was the name of the program, not the model, whose official name is simply Landrover 110 as far as the manufacturer was concerned (the army had specific designators).

However, all post 1989 derivatives of the pre-1989 Landrover are correctly described as Defenders, and this includes the military Wolf variant.

Similarly, pre-1989 Rangerovers cannot correctly be described as Landrovers. They are either Rovers or Leylands, if you want to be more generic. But all Rangerovers manufactured after 1989 are Landrovers.

John

I figure Landrover, would have put The Perentie in the 110 column for annual sales, post 1990 it would have gone in the Defender column. What the customer chose to call it is largely irrelevant

So I think we largely agree