Thread: taking a stand...

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Quite a display of an immature attitude.

what are you saying ian?

Originally Posted by Eevo

we are better than a nanny state.

It's that sort of attitude that leads to a nanny state. If people think they can do anything just because it's legal then we have to create laws for everything we consider undesirable.

I think their very public display can support an ugly subculture that truly believes the slogans, which shouldn't be encouraged.

Natural forces sometimes not effective in denying such support, so govt sometimes needs to decide to make stand. Censorship always evokes strong views. So it's never an easy decision.

Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

I'm not overly fond of political correctness, however I don't believe a camper van should have things like "in every princess is a little **** who wants to try it once" emblazoned on them.
It's hardly an appropriate attitude to be exposing children to, Australia already has a pretty horrendous attitude towards women. We don't need to worsen that for the sake of appealing to a few 'edgy' teenagers who want to smoke pot in the back of a clapped out camper.
Stick it to 'em JC

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Exactly, such humour belongs in a pub or a mens shed, not in public in front of kids. How would you explain some of these slogans to your 5 year old princess?


Tom.

Originally Posted by jon3950

It's that sort of attitude that leads to a nanny state. If people think they can do anything just because it's legal then we have to create laws for everything we consider undesirable.

that makes no logical sense.

Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

I'm not overly fond of political correctness, however I don't believe a camper van should have things like "in every princess is a little **** who wants to try it once" emblazoned on them.
It's hardly an appropriate attitude to be exposing children to, Australia already has a pretty horrendous attitude towards women. We don't need to worsen that for the sake of appealing to a few 'edgy' teenagers who want to smoke pot in the back of a clapped out camper.
Stick it to 'em JC

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I reckon the example slogan is absolutely true: The princesses with wicked desires (hastening to add - not talking 5yo little princesses, talking legal age little princesses, which is what I reckon the slogan means. It is a fairly well established meme).

One of those "wish I knew it when I was younger" things. Something some wonderful women actually taught me was their own belief. A quest every man should undertake to discover in his mate. (Might save a few marriages!)

(WAIT! Wait.... Hear me out ... Then only consider pulling the trigger)

And it's true not just of legal age little princesses. True of pretty much all people, all cultures, all genders... Repressed desires, to a greater or lesser degree, self imposed, or mandated by social mores/legal means - facts of life.

But even if accepted as truth. Does it need to be pasted on a billboard (even a small mobile one), or screamed from a soapbox?

A lot of things, even true things, don't need to be said at all. Doesn't mean they cannot be said. It comes down to appropriateness in a certain situation.

Societal norms generally dictate what is appropriate in a situation, what is edgy and needs a limited circulation, what is unacceptable outside of a very closed consensual adult circle.

When people break the societal norms, some folks are going to be offended and why on earth should anyone be surprised by that. The perps are not surprised, they meant to be controversial. They don't need to be defended.

Definitely young children shouldn't see their innocence dented too young. And part of protecting them means enforcing societal norms. Another big part of that (protecting kids) is educating them on matters as they grow, the timing and rate of education being the parents' sole right to determine.

Originally Posted by Eevo

that makes no logical sense.

does to many people...

and explains why laws change with the times.

Originally Posted by Eevo

whats why its called a free world.
if you dont like it, move to iran where it's controled

Living in a society, benefitting from all that societal living has to offer (surely some protections/privileges you personally enjoy), requires a degree of surrender to observing the norms of that society.

If you don't like it - remove yourself from the society that represses you so.