Thread: Dealing with a stalker - Suggestions

Originally Posted by 350RRC

Borrow a shotgun for a drone.

DL

Drones come under CASA regs and are treated as an aircraft - shooting at an aircraft is not likely to bring you the result you desire.


Martyn

Originally Posted by Bushie

Drones come under CASA regs and are treated as an aircraft - shooting at an aircraft is not likely to bring you the result you desire.


Martyn

Not that I believe there is a drone or I have anything to shoot a drone down with but if I found a drone hovering in my garden and it had an unfortunate accident and crashed I doubt it would be in a position to fly again after salvage and recovery had been completed. 😆

https://www.casa.gov.au/modelaircraft

• You should only fly in visual line-of-sight, in day visual meteorological conditions (VMC). What does that mean?
  
  • No night flying
  • No flying in or through cloud or fog, and you should
  • Be able to see the aircraft with your own eyes (rather than through first-person-view (FPV)) at all times.
• You must not fly closer than 30 metres to vehicles, boats, buildings or people.
• You must not fly over populous areas such as beaches, heavily populated parks, or sports ovals while they are in use.
• In controlled airspace, which covers most Australian cities, you must not fly higher than 400 feet (120 metres) above the ground.
• You must not fly in a way that creates a hazard to other aircraft, so you should keep at least 5.5 km away from airfields, aerodromes and Helicopter Landing Sites.

Hi Loanranger,


I cant speak for the WA Laws and how they deal with these thing but I can give you an idea of what we advise people to do in NSW. I've been a member of the NSW Constabulary since 2009, in that time I have seen a huge decline in the ability for people to engage in conflict resolution and deal with problems as adults. These issues are far easier to deal with when one of the parties deals with the situation as an adult, as you have done, it becomes difficult when people resort to violence or threats etc because as a Police Officer it sucks having to charge a 'victim' when they take the law into their own hands as much as the other party may deserve what they got.


These people are great at harassing people and doing things normal people don't to but they will be the first ones running to the police station to make a report if you step out of line and cry victim.


In NSW all personal violence matters are reported directly to the courts (provided an actual offence has not been committed). If someone is sending harassing messages, stalking, following etc a person can make an appointment at the court house, make a brief report with their name and that of the offender and a time is scheduled to face the magistrate and plead your case for an AVO. If the defendant named in the AVO fails to show up they are more often than not granted.


Yes it is true that an AVO is only a piece of paper however they give police a new offence to charge the harasser with, Breach AVO. Ordinarily if that person drove down your street, came to your work place or went within 100m of you there would be no offence, now police can arrest the person and charge them if those conditions are written into the AVO.


I didn't read all of the 6 pages of replies thoroughly however I skimmed them all and get the gist. The best piece of information is to get a diary and keep a track of everything that happens. Should an AVO be an avenue later down the track its important that you are armed with all the information you can possibly have to present to the magistrate to prove you need one. Dates of incidents, times etc helps paint a clearer picture.


For many people a situation is hard like this because we don't think the way these people do so its hard to understand what motivates them. Like already mentioned stalking/harassment can be a precursor for escalated behaviour so its important that you cover yourself.


Not sure if that helps, happy to answer any questions but like I said I don't know how the system works in WA.


Matt

Matt, no better (the system works...) than it does in The East... People have been seriously hurt whilst waiting for an AVO report to be acted upon by our resource- stretched Rozzers...

LR and PR are showing remarkable restraint... I don't think I'd be as calm/clear-headed if my family was being targeted like this...

Originally Posted by superquag

Matt, no better (the system works...) than it does in The East... People have been seriously hurt whilst waiting for an AVO report to be acted upon by our resource- stretched Rozzers...

LR and PR are showing remarkable restraint... I don't think I'd be as calm/clear-headed if my family was being targeted like this...

In NSW we have a good system for implementing protection immediately. We can apply for an AVO online and it an Urgent Interim AVO is granted by the supervising Sgt, then a court date is set for the matter to be heard by a magistrate. In the time between the incident and the court date the victim and any person they are in a domestic relationship with is covered by the interim AVO. That's when there is an incident or urgent action is required.


Other things like I mentioned are dealt with by the courts directly and bypass us completely.

Cheers Ace.

We had a nice long chat to a policeman yesterday at our local station who gave us some advice of our we can go about things much as you have said.

You are quite right this person will play the victim and I have no doubt they are already doing this.

Originally Posted by loneranger

Cheers Ace.

We had a nice long chat to a policeman yesterday at our local station who gave us some advice of our we can go about things much as you have said.

You are quite right this person will play the victim and I have no doubt they are already doing this.

Glad to hear you got some useful advice. Its hard to deal with people like that because we aren't prepared to go to the lengths they are to play the game so you have to outsmart them. Good luck.