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Legally, it's all about what happens if a pedestrian hits the bar.
A fishing rod holder would slice the person open from navel to neck.
A spotlight was smash into the ribs, possibly fatally.
A flat lightbar would tip the person over onto the bonnet, unless the lightbar was behind the front of the bullbar.
its about smooth surfaces and not ripping a person open. thats the idea behind the law
...and not impinging on vision zones. Several states specifically mandate that fitment cannot be on top of the bullbar, but most do not. However the ADR has clauses requiring vision zones that need to be maintained (seperate to 13/00). Most, if not all, lights fitted to the top of a bullbar would breach the over bonnet forward vision zones and therefore be illegal. Not all of the regs applying to lighting are in 13/00. There are others that are not specific to lighting that are covered elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
And before anyone says “I can see just fine” [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoClax
There is a standard for measuring this from the drivers seat. So whilst some people may be able to see just fine - the standard has a specified “eye height”.
Roof rack lights will hardly rip a normal height person open[bighmmm]Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
The basics of it are there is a specified form (object) of specified dimensions at a specified distance in front of the vehicle that needs to be visible to a driver of specified height (eye position). So, as Tombie stated, it's not open to interpretation or justification. Like with almost any mod, if you make a change and can't prove the zone is unaffected then it's deemed illegal. Hence the hard line some coppers take. Get an engineer to verify it and carry the paperwork if it might be iffy and you don't want the hassle. Or take your chances...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
VSI8 covers most mods and also protrusions for Victorians (edge radii, openings, etc) and (I think?) NCOP14 covers the whole country in the states where NCOP (National Code Of Practice) has been recognised and supersedes state rules. Eventually all states and territories *should* be following the NCOP, but that's up to the individual fiefdoms to accept that or not...
I assume that's why it says that lightbars have to be below bonnet height, to avoid obstructing vision.
BTW in a pedestrian hit the person could certainly go over the windscreen and hit a roof-mounted lightbar.
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Originally Posted by DiscoMick
micks on the ball.
I'm tipping, should a pedestrian be hit by one of my Landrovers, that pedestrian would be going under, not over.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
I would think that anyone hit by 2.5-3 tone of landrover isn't going anywhere in a hurry [bigwhistle]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh