Law & Order is STUFFED.

And here We go again.
Herald Sun today page 4.
A 15 y.o. youth has pleaded guity to ATTEMPTED MURDER, burglary & other charges.
A judge has handed down 9 "Directions" to ensure this kid will receive "kid glove" treatment. (article's words, not mine).
There is to be "an avoidance of unnecessary intimidation, humiliation & distress", for the youth's hearings. He must never be handcuffed, He can sit amongst family & friends in court "as He wishes". The youth is to be referred to by his first name, never as "the prisoner", Counsel & Judge are not to be robed, and lawyers are to speak in simplified language.
There is more, read it if you can. I am disgusted,...I wonder what his victims feel about this?
Pickles.

Can't get to the article on Herald Sun site as it's behind a pay wall. But you can read it on the Mercury ..................... No Cookies | The Mercury

This country needs some politicians with balls to stand up to these pathetic judges, and if they do not conduct court business in accordance with community standards and expectations, sack the useless parasitic arseholes. This bull**** is getting way beyond a joke, and it is about time the general population was heard. Time the two major political parties and their hanger's on got the message loud and clear ........................ :censored:

You can smuggle firearms into the country and get a slap on the wrist as long as you have the bolts removed, because apparently thats safe...

But dont go out your farm with your firearm in your car or even have any ammo in your car while driving, as thats dangerous for Licensed firearm owner...

First paragraph, in SA, second one was WA... It just dont make sense to me how a licensed person can get threatened with gaol when they are not breaching any law yet a smuggler is able to say, "they where safe" and that makes it right...

Our laws are stuffed and we only have one group in our society to blame... The Pink and Greys in parliament...

Sarah Paino death: Teen sentenced to five years' detention for killing mother in Hobart crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

It will just go on and on I'm afraid.
cheers,
D

I believe it starts with boundaries. If kids dont learn them they push further and further. It then gets harder to pull them back to decency, which is made impossible by the reluctance to impose any sanction, and so the cycle goes on.

The victim mentality rules. Are they victims? It could be argued yes, as their parents failed them but by then refusing to deal with their actions its just perpetuating the failure which made them victims to start with.

What to do about the failure of the parents. Should we remove kids much more than we do, or hold the parents accountable for kids actions to age 18?

What to do when it becomes obvious nothing can now pull them back to decency. Throw away the key? 3 strikes and out like the US?

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Originally Posted by Dark61

Sarah Paino death: Teen sentenced to five years' detention for killing mother in Hobart crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

It will just go on and on I'm afraid.
cheers,
D

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We were in Hobart when this tragedy happened - part of Davey St was still blocked off when we went through there later in the morning.

Once again, one of the pathetic parasites who form the judiciary in this country hands down a ****weak sentence which in no way reflects the actions of the criminal scum who caused this woman's death.

Manslaughter under the Criminal Code carries a maximum adult sentence of 21 years in jail. Justice Helen Wood said she had handed down a "heavy sentence" and described the teenager's driving as "chillingly dangerous". So this parasite's definition of a "heavy sentence" is five years detention - less than a quarter of the maximum adult sentence - and one that could see him out on parole in as little as two and a half years.

Maybe if a member of Justice Wood's immediate family were a victim of the actions of scum like these, she might take a different view when passing sentence. :censored:

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Originally Posted by Simon

I believe it starts with boundaries. If kids dont learn them they push further and further. It then gets harder to pull them back to decency, which is made impossible by the reluctance to impose any sanction, and so the cycle goes on.

The victim mentality rules. Are they victims? It could be argued yes, as their parents failed them but by then refusing to deal with their actions its just perpetuating the failure which made them victims to start with.

What to do about the failure of the parents. Should we remove kids much more than we do, or hold the parents accountable for kids actions to age 18?

What to do when it becomes obvious nothing can now pull them back to decency. Throw away the key? 3 strikes and out like the US?

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Thats a problem, parents have been convinced that restricting and making limits on children is not the way to go... The experts say that children that are punished will become violent, yet my own experience is that I know what it feels like to hurt so dont wish on another.. My son and I have discussed this and he pointed out only recently how he feels sorry for someone when they are hurt, but admits, sometimes they need that to know how others feel(was a pretty good conversation and made me proud that he understands that)...

Most of this comes from society and the powers that be following do gooders... Sadly those same do gooders have been shown to be the problem also!

Reading the initial story I noted the individual is a "full time carer".

So not only does this joker not go to jail, we all continue to pay about $800 a fortnight so he can continue to go and buy drugs and then drive over some more of us.

Found the rates here. https://www.humanservices.gov.au/cus.../carer-payment

Terrible tragedy.
I note that if he had been sentenced as a youth he could only have been given two years, but by treating him as an adult the magistrate was able to more than double that to five years.
It would be interesting to compare the five years with the sentencing schedule which magistrates are required to follow. If we think the sentence is inadequate the fault rests with the state government which makes the laws, not magistrates who apply what they are required to observe.

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What a load of crap. The state law provides for a maximum sentence of up to 21 years. The ****weak magistrate has chosen to issue a fraction of this sentence, which is nothing short of a joke.

We continue to see examples of where ****weak judges and magistrates apply lenient sentences for serious crime, where there is ample provision within the existing laws for more appropriate and meaningful sentences to be applied. We have even seen examples of where judges and magistrates have refused to pass sentences prescribed by law (such as in three strikes policies). It is about time the politicians held these arseholes to account and sacked those not doing their job. They are, after all, our employees - not some privileged group of self-opinionated arseholes who are above the law.

While he may have been a bit of a strange one in many ways - Campbell Newman at least had the right idea in some of his attempts to take sentencing out of the hands of the judiciary and enforce minimum sentencing standards for some crimes. He at least had the balls to recognise that the judiciary in this country is an ineffective bunch of ****weak leeches on the system, and made an effort to do something about it. There desperately needs to be more of the same.