Thread: Melbourne Bourke Street in lockdown

It's certainly true that mental illness is under-diagnosed and counseling and mental health services are seriously under-funded. Taxpayers don't want to pay the cost of funding them properly.
Saying the cops should have just shot him ignores reality. From what I saw he was not threatening people when he was doing burnouts so shooting was not justified. You can't shoot people just because they might do something bad
As for him being on bail, lots of people are on bail. Do we really want to lock up even more people? Should know a lot more about his criminal history before commenting, I think.
It's a terrible situation.

Originally Posted by Tank

Go to Change.org and sign the petition to tighten Bail Laws to stop bastards like this getting back on the street, up to around 25,000 already, your chance to DO something, Regards Frank.

It is a waste of time in Vic as our g̶o̶v̶e̶r̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ dictator here does not listen.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

By that reasoning we should just round up everyone who would once have been in the funny farm and simply dispose of them. Then wait for the Ice dealers to produce more for them.
The Asylums weren't shut and sold off because do-gooders don't like seeing people locked up, so much as because, tight arsed bastard taxpayers didn't want to pay for them. Mental health in general, is woefully underfunded. Can we really blame the Looneys if we totally ignore them until they bight us on the arse?

Bail, parole, probation and light sentences are given for the same reasons.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I'm with you in sentiment Tombie but I couldn't pull the trigger and I doubt you could either.

Appreciate and understand your sentiment..

However: I could breathe in, hold and squeeze and not think twice about it... feral is feral, whatever species of creature it may be.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

It's certainly true that mental illness is under-diagnosed and counseling and mental health services are seriously under-funded. Taxpayers don't want to pay the cost of funding them properly.
Saying the cops should have just shot him ignores reality. From what I saw he was not threatening people when he was doing burnouts so shooting was not justified. You can't shoot people just because they might do something bad
As for him being on bail, lots of people are on bail. Do we really want to lock up even more people? Should know a lot more about his criminal history before commenting, I think.
It's a terrible situation.

You mean like placing a bomb in his local school?

Originally Posted by DeeJay

I think we are entitled to lay blame.

I wonder why the grey unmarked police car facing oncoming traffic at the intersection Flinders Street just sat there for 4 of the circuits, thus missing 4 opportunities to ram him. Why also did the 2 more unmarked cars stop & actually wait for him to take off up Swanston & then simply follow?

I really hope this gets investigated in due course as it really should be, I'm sure by then the police knew who they were dealing with.

Pretty sure you'll find VicPol aren't allowed to ram, seeing as it seems everyone in Victoria cried out that the police shouldn't be allowed to chase criminals or employ controlled violence or action (I.e ramming, PIT), which has lead to VicPol basically having to resort to hugs and stern words to deal with this sorts of people.
Imagine if after this bloke stabbed his brother, and before he got in the car he was shot.
'Typical police brutality, why didn't they just shoot him in the legs'
'He only had a knife, why didn't they just tackle him?'
We either allow our police to employ controlled aggression and stand by them in such instances, or we don't and we accept the consequences

There was a spectacular car chase around here about 2 years ago which ended when an unmarked police car did a u turn in front of the offender &" t " boned it. The officer involved was charged with either dangerous or careless driving. So it seems little has changed..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...b03ff7c5448224

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZBju6H0uw0

Originally Posted by d2dave

It is a waste of time in Vic as our g̶o̶v̶e̶r̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ dictator here does not listen.

Dave it's all governments, even the previous government, naysayer Ted Baillieu and Doc Napthine, and the previous government before them didn't so anything either, they are tarred with the same brush.
There are too many do gooders sticking up for criminals and getting them back on the streets.