Confirming road rules

**Mick_Marsh** · 18th April 2017, 10:46 PM

Did anyone notice the story in the 'Tiser today:
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In short

n April 2016, officers on Hindley St stopped Mr Rafizadeh, confiscated his helmet and fined him $375 for driving with obscured vision.

When he contested that fine in court in February, prosecutors upped the charge to driving without due care, and the penalty to $2500 and three demerit points.

He refused to plead guilty and asked the matter be set down for trial — in response, prosecutors withdrew all charges.

I suspect there is no such charge as "driving with obscured vision". I have done an extensive search on the internet but can find no such rule.

I have found the National Road Rules: https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports...69ABF7D%29.pdf

The South Australian Road Rules: https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ...014.205.UN.PDF

The Victorian road safety rules: http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/Do...09-94sr003.pdf

I have searched and searched, but still cannot find the rule.
Now, we are meant to drive within the road rules. Not all the road rules are contained within "The Drivers Handbook". Now, if we are meant to drive within the road rules, these rules should be able to be readily accessed by drivers.

So, I have started this thread to bust or confirm the myths.

Can anyone point me to (please post up link) the road rule that would prohibit someone driving wearing a stormtrooper helmet.
I don't want to be forced to give up wearing my Darth Vader helmet.
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**Eevo** · 18th April 2017, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I suspect there is no such charge as "driving with obscured vision". I have done an extensive search on the internet but can find no such rule.

Now, if we are meant to drive within the road rules, these rules should be able to be readily accessed by drivers.

i think there is a driving with obscured vision charge. its the same one they give you if you ride at night with a tinted visor.

that would be nice.

**Mick_Marsh** · 18th April 2017, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

i think there is a driving with obscured vision charge. its the same one they give you if you ride at night with a tinted visor.

that would be nice.

Where is the link?
No link, it doesn't exist. I reckon they tried to bluff then had to drop the charge because it wouldn't fly.

**austastar** · 19th April 2017, 07:55 AM

Hi,
No link, maybe hearsay.
That it is not allowed to alter a Australian Standards approved helmet in any way that would fail the Standard specifications.

But as the helmet in question is not Standards approved, can't be used on a motorcycle, I suspect the case in question must fail.
Cheers

**Vern** · 19th April 2017, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
No link, maybe hearsay.
That it is not allowed to alter a Australian Standards approved helmet in any way that would fail the Standard specifications.

But as the helmet in question is not Standards approved, can't be used on a motorcycle, I suspect the case in question must fail.
Cheers

Standards approved or not, he was driving a car! Obscured vision is all i think they could get him on, thats if his vision was even obscured at all!

**austastar** · 19th April 2017, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Vern

, thats if his vision was even obscured at all!

Hi,
I've seen some glasses with heavy frames that surely obliterate any side vision. Yet still used when driving.

It is a funny world.

Cheees

**Mick_Marsh** · 19th April 2017, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Vern

Standards approved or not, he was driving a car! Obscured vision is all i think they could get him on, thats if his vision was even obscured at all!

Those words, again. Obscured vision. Where's the link? You can't find it? Neither can I. There is no such rule.

**Mick_Marsh** · 19th April 2017, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
I've seen some glasses with heavy frames that surely obliterate any side vision. Yet still used when driving.

It is a funny world.

Cheees

I believe the rules are motorcyclists sun glasses must have AS certification. I posted a thread on this in the motorcycle section. I believe most sun glasses on sale do not have AS certification, and yet, there are a lot of people out there wearing them whilst driving a car.
Perhaps the police should be stopping those people and fining them for not wearing AS certified eyewear. Would be a great money earner unless people challenged it and took it to court.

**Vern** · 19th April 2017, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Those words, again. Obscured vision. Where's the link? You can't find it? Neither can I. There is no such rule.

No i was commenting that it doesn't matter if the helmet was adr approved or not as he was driving a car!
Now for the obscured vision 'ruling', if there even is one, would this be a ruling for head wear or say stickers, spare wheel etc..blocking the screen? Or both?

**austastar** · 19th April 2017, 08:57 AM

Hi,
Open faced? Or behind an approved visor? So many doctrinaire regulations exist except against stupid!

Let Darwin rule again!

Cheers

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