Thread: WHO ARE OUR REAL ENEMIES?

Well I believe one certainly can separate the two.
Anzac Day to me, is about celebrating & remembering, the LIVES OF THE AUSSIE DIGGERS, the brave soldiers who fought For their Country,..they weren't involved in Politics, they were in the trenches, showing extraordinary bravery, going "over the top", involved in all the horror, filth, bloodshed, gore, that is War,....and above all, in the most horrific conditions, demonstrating extraordinary "MATESHIP"/looking after your mates, in so many instances sacrificing their lives to do so. Those are the people I "remember" on Anzac Day, and also I remember the many many families who never saw their sons again!
So that's what I think about on Anzac Day. There are "Politics" involved in all Wars, and that is not what Anzac day is about, not to me anyway.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

There are "Politics" involved in all Wars, and that is not what Anzac day is about, not to me anyway.

you cant have one without the other.

"War is a mere continuation of politics by other means"

I think the last word should go to Wilfred Owen, the great WW1 poet.

Dulce Et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen: Read by Christopher Eccleston | Remembering World War 1 | C4 - YouTube

I think the last word should go to Wilfred Owen, the great WW1 poet.

Agreed

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Well I believe one certainly can separate the two.
Anzac Day to me, is about celebrating & remembering, the LIVES OF THE AUSSIE DIGGERS, the brave soldiers who fought For their Country,..they weren't involved in Politics, they were in the trenches, showing extraordinary bravery, going "over the top", involved in all the horror, filth, bloodshed, gore, that is War,....and above all, in the most horrific conditions, demonstrating extraordinary "MATESHIP"/looking after your mates, in so many instances sacrificing their lives to do so. Those are the people I "remember" on Anzac Day, and also I remember the many many families who never saw their sons again!
So that's what I think about on Anzac Day. There are "Politics" involved in all Wars, and that is not what Anzac day is about, not to me anyway.
Pickles.

I totally agree.
On ANZAC Day we should all shut up and respect their courage and sacrifice, as long as we remember ALL who showed courage and sacrificed and don't get selective about it.

Thanks Disco.
Pickles

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I totally agree.
On ANZAC Day we should all shut up and respect their courage and sacrifice, as long as we remember ALL who showed courage and sacrificed and don't get selective about it.

Perhaps Kipling should have the last word. I had my Great Grandfather and Grandfather both fight in WW1, Great Grandfather landed with the 9th battalion at 0430 on the beach at Gallipoli, in 1916 the 9th Battalion was split into the 9th and 49th Battalions. Great G.D. moved to the 49th, my G.D. was part of the 2nd reinforcements to the 49th. The 49th fought in almost every major battle the Aussies were in on the Western Front. They both made it back home, although wounded and gassed. Like any soldier who fought , if you were to call them heroes, they would dismiss it with a scornful look. Only two things really mattered, look after your mates, and never forget the utter futility of War. To me , if Anzac Day no longer existed, it would mean there had been no more wars. no more soldiers to march. That would be a good thing.

"Tommy" by Rudyard Kipling - YouTube

My uncle was in PNG. He was never the same, according to the family. Became an alcoholic. No glory of war there.